Originally posted by rogue1
Please provide some information to back up this statement, or is this just more made up bravado of yours.
Now your the one asking for proof. You seem to always ask but never provide, its funny looking at little children asking for things all the time. Why
do you always doubt me, I have always presented proof even when you begged me to
Now look at this total of FDI in china. It clearly states that the MOST FDI comes from Hong Kong. Now their is another figure you should also take
note of. Beginning 25 years ago (to 2004) there has been $400billion foreign dollars invested in china, divide this figure by 25 and you get $16
Billion dollars a year. Now that this figure, the Chinese government has invested 44.3% of the GDP into the economy. Chinas economy is more than 2.5
TRILLION dollars, it works out to more than ONE TRILLION dollars in 2006 ONLY. More than all foriegn investment or FDI has generated in china for 25
Now what about this statement that china will "implode" without this FDI. Another lie on your part, seems to make absurd comments without any facts
or should i say bravado?
You clearly aren't the head of business operations for the sweatshop you work in from the display of knowledge on the chinese economy
Well for the very bvious reason, any inforamtion that brigs Mao and the Communist party into disrepute is heavily censored.
Describe the term heavily censored?.
Your knowledge of chinese history is completely ridiculous, must be because you cant read chinese books and haven't read these "supposedly
censored" books that aren't published. Its common knowledge what happened in the aftermath of the cultural revolution and who was responsible, these
are even written in english books. The gang of four, Deng Xiao Ping, reforms etc are fundermental knowledge for anyone how has the slightly knowledge
of the cultural revolution, its all about knowledge of the event, what lead to them and the evualtion or end result of what happened.
There are many books published about what happened in the cultural revolution in china which are not cherry picking or missing "important bits"
through "censored" material. They give events, they give details and most importantly they attack the high leadership at that time which was the
gang of four. There was a MASSIVE public trial which had nothing to do with the CCP because they were the one under trial. The culprits were charged
and some arrested. What has been vigorously reported was a event in 1968 when Mao found out what was happening in the countryside and immediately put
a stop to it. The CCP does not censor it simply because there is nothing to censor because these attacks weren't seen or were offered by the CCP but
a foreign third party in the form of the gang of four.
You then state below that we both agree that Mao was incompetant which re-enforces my point that the Chinese government does not consider a threat to
Mao or the CCP
Which goes back to your same point that the CCP would somehow censor this material even though none of this implicated them
before you were asying how all the people persecuted were deservedly so, now you say their are victims.
I actually asked you to describe the word innocent
I never did say all people were deservedly persecuted, I actually asked for a distinction between the so called victims "How would you describe
innocent?, people who once where landlords but now living like the rest of people or the officials who still thought old or talked about things
against what everyone else thought".
I even went on to outline who weren't victims after you said something about Cluster# which you are still as yet to explain the meaning
"These people who supposedly "terrorised" these communities were the VAST majority and the people getting terrorised where former landowners and
thugs who terrorised these people beforehand. Communism was universally accepted amongst the chinese communities simply because it appealed to
Deng Xiao Ping was a obvious victim of the cultural revolution because victim is still is defined as "One who is harmed by or made to suffer from an
act, circumstance, agency, or condition" and not a certain standpoint you have. But because he suffered from a certain act (cultural revolution) he
is considered a Victim. Other moderate leaders like him or radcial communist were targeted because of their capitalist tendencies
ONly when peple came to the West could they feel free to tell the real truth. The truth which you like to call fanatasy as it doesn't sit well
with your blind faith.
You mean the Blind faith of pictorial evidence, countless personal accounts of events, documentation, real personal accounts after the cultrual
revolution as opposed to this "truth" they supposedly told without any edvidence of these events. Maybe your the one with "blind faith" and
You like to give the impression that you live in CHina, yet you were raised in Australia, being Chinese heritage does not give you some
inherant authority about China.I had to laugh before how you said you were fluent in 7 languages as well,
You said I don't speak 7 languages, what is your logic behind that?. You also said that I change my so-called "life-story", know Mr Rogue1, WHERE
HAVE I EVER
CHANGED MY LIFE STORY.
Give the impression that im living in china?. How about the numerous threads i stated that i live in Australia, how about the numerous threads that I
stated my family history?. You like to bend the truth on many occasions, my authority on chinese matters is not owing to where i was rasied nor who I
was or if im chinese or not. Its my vast amount of knowledge aquired reading numerous books published by both sides of the so called "bambo
curtain", foreign diplomatic statements, the fact that I have been to china at regular intervals for my whole life, the fact that i have met high
ranking provincial officals all the way down to the common inner chinese migrant. Or maybe owing to the fact that I send a great amount of time on the
largest chinese forums frequented by chinese party members of differing ranking.
That is a major difference between me and you, we might have read the same books or you were even born in china, that doesn't matter. What actually
matters is I have been out and met a vast amount of people with no confines in chinas SEZ region which has seen the most major change in the history
of the human race. The fact that I can trace my background to the 8 generations before myself and the fact that I am actually accepted as family when
talking to most of these people gives me un-rated accress to the people I talk to
LOL, so you found the only instance of a small american raid, so what ? What is the pint you are trying to make. IMO the US should have bombed
Now its a small instance of bombing attacks. Before you said they never "bombed the otherside of teh Yalu, amybe a few stray bombs" now it wsn't a
stray bomb but now a American raid?. Why did i find i instance of "US bombed the other side of the Yalu". You still got it roge1, your still the
king of BS
Here are the quotes from you below
"The US never bombed the otherside of teh Yalu, amybe a few stray bombs."
"Why don't you find an instance where the US bombed the other side of the Yalu ? You're the one making the allegations."
The Soviets sent in their elite pilots, the PLAAF pilots were crap.
And this is based on what?
The fact that the Soviets ADMITTED they lost 345 MIG-15s out of a total of 379 confirmed american kills?. Doesn't that suggest that the Soviet pilots
were the worse pilots or do you have another excuse why the supposedly better Soviet pilots suffered in excess of 400%+ more losses than chinese
The Soviets sent their "elite" pilots from the PISTON
era dogfights to fight in Jet interceptors which weren't designed for dogfighting. Any
techniques or traits they had were mostly worthless against an airforce flying much more maneuverable fighters designed for dogfighting with quick
firing machine guns rather than cannons designed for shooting down large bombers like the B-29 which were their primary mission. The main advantages
the Mig-15 had was its climb rate, speed and the weight of ammo it could put down on its target with its Cannon fire. The Soviets were simply shot
down when they tried to take on the American bombers by the Sabres because they weren't watching their backs
LOL, they knoew because they picked up radoi transmisison in RUssian from teh MIG's all the time. The PLAAF attacked in mass, if they
encountered a force of almost even strength they ran off.
The story actually goes that they suspected there were Russian pilots because they heard these russians talk on the radio, and only extremely rarely
since they had to keep radio silence for obvious reasons. This was ONLY confirmed when the Russians later admitted they entered the war. Until that
the Americans only had rumours about this Russian presence in the Korean war since the Koreans supposedly kept shut when this happened and was not
allowed to speak. You imply that the russians freely ran around the Korean penisula with red hair and speical markings so the USAF knew they were
The PLAAF attacked in mass?. You mean a combination of 40 PLAAF againest 20 escorts and 30 bombers?. There might be less Sabres but no battle was
uneven because the MiG-15 had to destroy the bombers since it was their main objective while the sabres had a free hand. And the PLAAF ran off?, who
are you quoting this off?, you mean those American "aces" who claimed 792 fighters but only got 379 confirmed?