1. The US navy would be able to immediately blockade China's main ports. Seal teams to sabatogue ocean ports
Now tell me the US force deployments in the asian region as opposed to chinas deployments?. The US seventh fleet is able to blockade chinas coast by
itself?. You no that chinas fleet is currently deployed as a brown~green force that consists of a lot of missiles, submarines and lots of aircraft
along side chinas coast. It will not be ship against ship, it will be the whole chinese military againest the American seventh fleet intially and then
more American carriers which i think are extremely vunerable to submarines and ASM.
China also lanuchs bombing missions againest guam, Okinawa or any close American airbase with either Attack planes, cruise missiles or ballistic
missile attacks. Chinas own production of refined oil is adequate without consumer use and would be stopped immediately so the military can use it,
Russia will continue their own supply of oil and chinas oil pipeline in the west will be protected by SAM as well as chinas air force in the west
Seal teams sabotage chinas naval ports?. Maybe in a Tom Clancy novel. What about chinese SOF in civillian dress attack american ports?
2.Stealth bombers and cruise missles
20 stealth bombers and cruise missiles.
Cruise missiles would be the biggest problem againest fixed targets but as other conflicts have demonstrated they are not completely effective and as
demonstrated by the serbians they are easily tricked. The failure rate of the tomahawk in the gulf war was massive but that could be excused because
of its inmaturity. As some people might know, china has already begun deploying and have already many operational units with mobile communications or
C4I systems because they know fixed targets are vunerable, they have also being developing many divices like laser deflectors to defeat LGB and have
been developing many different ECM divices to defeat cruise missiles as well
I also believe that Stealth bombers are vunerable to a intergrated air defense network and if used as they did in iraq would be shoot down by chinas.
I will go into more depth later on with this one when i find some of my past posts
3. Would begin bombing raids dropping EMP bombs in the major cities and electrical conducting areas.
EMP, interesting but do you have any idea about its deployment
4. Were a rocket launched across the Pacific, the US would likely knock it out.
Has the US ever knocked out a ICBM?. Has the US ever claimed it can knock out a ICBM, how about 60 rockets?.
5. Meanwhile, of course, the US would cancel all Treasury notes held by the PRC.
Cancel Treasury notes held by china?. Interesting since they would be sold off before congress could pass anything. And the US dollar would jump?, You
mean dive don't you?. Going into a major war would have major consequences on everything. Who in their right mind would accept green backs if the
stock markets were falling, they would most probaly convert their money to the Yen or Euro.
Being buying Russian equipment on mass and order immediate full production of all types of arms in many of chinas arms workshops which are either on
ground protected by SAM cover or underground in one of the many MAO era tunnel and underground networks that was constructed over the years
You seem to think that the USAF could somehow move around un-noticed and unable to be targeted. The USAF has never been tested in conflict with a real
enemy, the only enemy they managed to defeat was Iraq and could not manage to defeat Serbia with that type of blockade and numerous NATO allies even
after the use of LGB which would be most likey denied by chinese SAMS and counters emplace like light emitters or even the Tor-M1 system or its
chinese counterpart. how many Tomahawks does America have, Try to compare land mass and the amounts of targets via serbia and china and see how many
you need to even get china to the area serbia is in. Factor in the training chinese pilots get and Iraqi pilots and the fact that they have comparable
equipment at their disposal
The difference between Iraq or Serbia is the lack of American allies and the fact that they have a lot less room to deploy anything but naval
Here is the possible detetion methods the chinese airforce can use to detect a stealth fighter.
The YLC-20 passive system which is much like the VERA-E system which the US was very worried about any tried to buy out the company so the technology
wouldn't fall to potentinal enemies. This system works on the principle of TDOA, im not going to say im absolutly saw how this technology works, but
a former radar operator informed us its based on the movement of aircraft from each reciever. But its effectiness in detecting stealth aircraft is
Here is the chinese sales brochure
The other system that can be used is a long-wave radar which is much harder to scatter than millimetric radar currently being used. These older type
radars were discontinued because the newer radars provided more accuracy than the older long-wave types. But these can be used to find the general
location of stealth aircraft so they could be intercepted or alert fighters in the air of a potentional enemy. Then there are new generation radars
which utilse different designs compared to the average Monostatic radar which has the reciever and transmitter in roughly the same location, these new
radars seperated their transmitter and reciever at longer differences, Bistatic radar and the Passive radars which is are called multistatic. I cant
really explain the indepth details but these articles give a breif description. These can be used and will be used to detect stealth aircraft
Here is a possible senario, this is assuming that the US has a chance to deploy the F-22 at any bases close to the chinese border. There has been talk
of the F-22 coming all the way from alaska and Guam but i assume this is some ridiculuos asumption that the US is capable of anything. But anyhow, the
PLAAF will always have superior number of fighters compared to the amount of F-22s deployed.
*Currently the PLAAF has
300 J-8IIs (F/H variants are in the minority)
The Current F-22 force is about a few SQN of about 50 planes, these figures might be +/- but i dont keep tags on the USAF as oftend as i do with the
PLAAF. But lets assume all those F-22s can be stationed on Kadena Air Base on okinawa to replace the F-15s currently stationed there. The F-22 will
still be out-number by a fair ratio.
Now here is a situation, 20 F-22s managed to get up and are engaged by about 100 or so chinese fighters from a number of airbases near taiwan. The
numbers are about 25 J-10s, 25 Su-27/30, 10 J-8II and about 40 J-7E/G and a random amount of monkey fighters which are basically J-5/6/7 drones to
confuse the F-22 fighters while assuming that the US airforce is here to gain air superioty as you claimed. The F-22 will be closing in to their NEZ
of the Aim-120C which is about 2/3 or 1/3 of the Maximum range of their missiles. When they fire they will probaly assume the most dangerious posture
which is the closet fighter objects in the sky which are the drones in the air, they will need to wait and paint the fighters until the active seekers
on the Aim-120 activate at 40km asumming that they dont have a NEZ as well. But this time, the 20 F-22s will be within 40km of the 100 or so fighters
which had no been engaged travelling at about 800-900km a hour until they are 20 km towards the F-22s and then use after-burner to get there
900km/h is about 15 kilometers a mintue
1500km/h is about 25 kilmeters a minute.
So that is roughly 2 minutes towards engagment at visual range. The F-22 can then be engaged by a number of methods, the F-22 can be painted about
10-20km by conventional fighters frontally which means they will be less from the side or even the back if the fighters do a arial pincer movement.
Short range heat-seekers while dogfighting againest a ratio of 1:5. They could even be located eariler by the OLS-27 on the Su-27/30 and will be in
visual sight so a cannon kill could even be possible.
This senario will only be possible if the PLAAF at datalinked to a AWACS aircraft which is getting feeds from ground based radar which i think the
PLAAF has already developed somwhat.
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[edit on 20-1-2007 by chinawhite]