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I’m coming clean on Extraterrestrials

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posted on Sep, 27 2007 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by sleeper
should we manage to stick our head through the curtain of existence---first we will not comprehended anything, second it will scare the heck out of us.


When you stick your head through the curtain of existance, the realisation is not able to be conceptualised, but the knowledge and understanding of your true nature is left open to you in a comprehensible manner, along with understanding of why it is not truly communicable and why it is ineffable.

This is not scary, it is awe-inspiring and liberating. If it is scary then you haven't really gone through the curtain.




posted on Sep, 27 2007 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by SugarCube


...without looking like they have lost it...


They never had it.



posted on Sep, 27 2007 @ 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by Enthralled Fan
Sleeper,
Thanks for the reply, and tell Milton thanks as well.
I think pink looks good on some guys. Don Johnson had it all the rage there for a while.

Milton pointed out that he is a Eunuch, from which I understand is a castrated male. This seems shocking and barbaric to me that this goes on in the civilization that Milton is from, probably because I dont' understand it.

What is the reason for this to happen? Is it by choice or is it for some type of birth control. Did this happen to Milton at his birth or when he was old enough to remember it? Is there some sort of heirarchy in his race that requires this?

It makes me think of a movie I saw some time ago about an Emporer in China who had thousands of eunuchs that kept thier parts in a jar after removal. I think the point there was that they were to serve thier leader only and should have no other earthly distraction. Is this in anyway why something like this would be done to Milton?


Sometimes he acts like he was castrated---just kidding. His body was designed without the family jewels; they don’t need them because they don’t procreate like humans do---



posted on Sep, 27 2007 @ 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by almighty bob
This is not scary, it is awe-inspiring and liberating. If it is scary then you haven't really gone through the curtain.


A very large part of humanity is afraid of things in this life---mostly stuff they shouldn’t be fearful of, but nevertheless they have irrational fear.

While locked inside the human mind and peering through that reality curtain without higher entity supervision to make sense of what is out there---fear is the name of the game.

We can’t get passed that fear without first getting over some of the silly fears we are faced with everyday while here on this side of the fence.



posted on Sep, 27 2007 @ 10:27 PM
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Hey Sleeper,

I have always been interested in spacecraft design and I'm curious about their spacecraft. Now I know the general look of most smaller ET craft are saucer/disc shaped, but I am curious on what the larger ships and motherships look like.

If you could post some sketches that would be fantastic.


Are the smaller disc ships capable of interstellar travel or just the larger ships? Are they just planetary scout/shuttle vessels?

What is the design philosophy behind using a disc shaped hull?

Why don't ET ships make a sonic boom (when obviously moving faster than mach 1)?

How are these ships built? What kind of manufacturing techniques?

How big are their biggest ships? How many beings and smaller vessels do they hold?

Can the discs fly thru solid objects?

How big are their "fleets"

What kind of weaponry (if any) do they have on their vessels?

I have heard their vessels are sentient on their own. True?



posted on Sep, 27 2007 @ 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by sleeper
reply to post by almighty bob
 



Originally posted by almighty bob
This is not scary, it is awe-inspiring and liberating. If it is scary then you haven't really gone through the curtain.


A very large part of humanity is afraid of things in this life---mostly stuff they shouldn’t be fearful of, but nevertheless they have irrational fear.

While locked inside the human mind and peering through that reality curtain without higher entity supervision to make sense of what is out there---fear is the name of the game.

We can’t get passed that fear without first getting over some of the silly fears we are faced with everyday while here on this side of the fence.


True, it does become easy to forget about how afraid you can be, especially when it comes to the dissolution of ego. In a way it can feel like you are committing suicide, especially if you have the wrong mindset.

But fear is just another choice. A game for silly buggers that I've realised I don't have to play


It doesn't necessarily need an higher entity for supervision though. You are still the 'highest entity', despite what human ego-perception may otherwise lead you to believe, and nothing can change that, nothing ever changes within it and nothing ever moves from being anything other than It, than You.

If anything, it would seem that being taken 'beyond the curtain' without having surrendered the belief of ego would be far more traumatic (ego-wise) than personal surrender and acceptance of reality.



posted on Sep, 28 2007 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by sleeper

Hi Chiiru

If we elude observation we do not exist---it’s as simple as that because everything is observable but not necessarily by humans.

Even we mere humans affect matter by our observation as is shown in the double slit experiment. But the cat and mouse game is for our entertainment only---should we manage to stick our head through the curtain of existence---first we will not comprehended anything, second it will scare the heck out of us.



So to exist one needs to be constantly observed? There is nothing, yet there is everything, just need a keen eye, right? I wonder who observes milton then

Will there ever be a time where we can see past the curtain?



posted on Sep, 28 2007 @ 01:38 AM
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Sleeper, thankyou for the reply to my question about the reason for
mankind's Earth existance. You always expand my thinking with your
answers and give hope that there is something much greater in store
for each of us if we aspire to higher levels of understanding.

So I guess you're saying that when the Earth is eventually destroyed, it
really won't matter in the overall scheme of things. Those who have
"died" and are recussitated state that each of us have existed before Earth
was created, and will continue to exist after Earth is gone. Those stories
are actually the basis for my belief system now.

Thanks again for sharing your wisdom and insight, Sleeper. -cwm



posted on Sep, 28 2007 @ 01:45 AM
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Hi Sleeper,
I think Milton should have his own sitcom.."The Eunich from Outerspace"
It can be about his life with a suburban family and all the mishaps he gets into.... He can arrive to pick your kid up from school in womens clothing... or land his spaceship on the nieghbors car and then you have to explain what happened....he accidentally teleports the mail lady to Uranus...the lonely housewife next door keeps hitting on him but he has to explain why he is built like a Ken doll...to many scenarios to think of. Oh wait.....that idea has already been done....3rd Rock from the Sun...and in movie form with "My stepmother is an Aliens" with Kim Basinger....nevermind....



posted on Sep, 28 2007 @ 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by sleeper
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Originally posted by Izarith
Wow
I understand the tug a war between the Disepticons and the Autobots, but i cant help but feel there is something missing in this equation ............Neutrality!! that's it
does Milton know if there are the non interfering souls or souls that record the battle between good and bad, bad and good? and do they act when the scale is tipped to far?


Hi Izarith

We rise and fall depending on the ballast of our true intentions----absolutely nothing more----the good or bad entities facilitate our desires to the nth degree, whatever our desires may be---good or bad

Example, if you do your child’s homework who learns?---neither you or the child---now you can help them with hints and such.

Who gets the credit? On earth the child does---it don’t work that way in the big bad universe where everyone must do the work to get the credit---zero cheating allowed

Satan or evil entities can only do our bidding; otherwise they have no power over us and will not be blamed for our fall.


Wow I love the feeling i get when I read something over and over then Boom!! it hits me like a ton of bricks. thanks for the (hint) Sleepr.

Are good and bad just earth words or do they hold weight in the Vers



posted on Sep, 28 2007 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by RedSpar
Hey Sleeper,

I have always been interested in spacecraft design and I'm curious about their spacecraft. Now I know the general look of most smaller ET craft are saucer/disc shaped, but I am curious on what the larger ships and motherships look like.

If you could post some sketches that would be fantastic.


I mentioned before that I might put some on a book cover assuming that I ever get around to a book cover. A graphic artist would have to draw them because I don’t have the patience to draw. Milton sits around drinking my coffee, eating my food and supervising by waste basket, every time I ask him to do something he tells me he’s on break, he can sketch but he don’t want to.


Are the smaller disc ships capable of interstellar travel or just the larger ships? Are they just planetary scout/shuttle vessels?


All real ET ships are interstellar but some escort and scout for the big ones exclusively.


What is the design philosophy behind using a disc shaped hull?


While in earths atmosphere stealth be the reason, but their shape is not fixed unless it be human


Why don't ET ships make a sonic boom (when obviously moving faster than mach 1)?


Because they are not matter as a matter of fact


How are these ships built? What kind of manufacturing techniques?


Some of them are cloned


How big are their biggest ships? How many beings and smaller vessels do they hold?


The big ones in this solar system can hold a few earth sized planets in their hull with plenty of room left over, ships in other parts of the galaxy have no size restrictions, and there is always a bigger one out there.


Can the discs fly thru solid objects?


Yes they can


How big are their "fleets"


We don’t want to go there---



What kind of weaponry (if any) do they have on their vessels?


Bad a-ss weaponry


I have heard their vessels are sentient on their own. True?


All ET stuff is----



posted on Sep, 28 2007 @ 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by Chiiru
So to exist one needs to be constantly observed?


As crazy as it sounds, yes


There is nothing, yet there is everything, just need a keen eye, right?


Not a keen eye just a good camera on every intersection---



I wonder who observes milton then


Well Milton certainly is an eyeful when in full regalia ---



Will there ever be a time where we can see past the curtain?


Everyone when they die---some will really love what they see---some will not be happy campers and beg for reentry into planets like earth---again.



posted on Sep, 28 2007 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by sleeper
No one has ever pulled the wool over us humans, well we may have to go back a few thousand years for that to be a true statement.


Now there is a statement I know is wrong. You have the wool firmly over you if you believe that is the case! I'm being pedantic when I state that there is no such thing as a "statistical impossibility" as you say: it still implies a *probability* no matter how high or low.

As for aliens, well, the more advanced they are the more reason they have to be looking over their shoulders. The food chain is endemic in the universe and pervades all dimensional elements no matter what ray guns are strapped to your hip.

You want to see a hint of tension on a green face, asked them about the "The Idea", ίδέα or ίερόν for all you Greek watchers - there is a universal constant after all and it isn't used to ensure you get your boiled eggs runny or hard!



posted on Sep, 28 2007 @ 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by carewemust
So I guess you're saying that when the Earth is eventually destroyed, it
really won't matter in the overall scheme of things.


Hi cwm

There are millions of planets just like earth being put into use for the first time as we speak. And old ones being recycled too----it’s a process that will never end regardless of what some scientists believe---and that’s only what is going on in this dimension.



posted on Sep, 28 2007 @ 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by adica1
Hi Sleeper,
I think Milton should have his own sitcom.."The Eunich from Outerspace"
It can be about his life with a suburban family and all the mishaps he gets into.... He can arrive to pick your kid up from school in womens clothing... or land his spaceship on the nieghbors car and then you have to explain what happened....he accidentally teleports the mail lady to Uranus...the lonely housewife next door keeps hitting on him but he has to explain why he is built like a Ken doll...to many scenarios to think of. Oh wait.....that idea has already been done....3rd Rock from the Sun...and in movie form with "My stepmother is an Aliens" with Kim Basinger....nevermind....


Hi adica

You forgot ALF, that’s Milton’s favorite show---well, when it was on.



posted on Sep, 28 2007 @ 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by Izarith
Wow I love the feeling i get when I read something over and over then Boom!! it hits me like a ton of bricks. thanks for the (hint) Sleepr.

Are good and bad just earth words or do they hold weight in the Vers


Hi Izarith

Good and bad are what we do to ourselves or to others---and by doing so we give meaning to the words.

No one can impose good on us nor bad on us---it don’t matter if we are soldiers under orders, it boils down to simple choices we make even when we are following orders.

All of us only have one master over us and we see that master every time we look in the mirror---is that an evil master or a good master looking back at us? It’s our choice



posted on Sep, 28 2007 @ 01:26 PM
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Hi Sleeper,

Been following your post. Can you please clear some of the ambiguity with regards to Milton and his communication and purpose with you up for me?

I understand his message to start enlightening man-kind slowly of what is really going on behind the curtian but doesn't that make him an appointed ambassador of sorts?

1. how old is Milton? Define in our years.

2. why does he get to communicate with you?

3. You said there were two or more factions, that are monitoring us with different agenda's (political).

4. There has to be a hierarchy in this scene, which oversees this galactic, cosmic and dimensional law because it has been said over and over again that this can't be done and that can be done, etc., and that we are protect from the bad Et's, etc. Who is the higher being that all other ET's adhere to?

If everything is being monitored, then truly the higher ups know Milton is visiting with you and breaking the code of silence and clandestine activity the ET's are doing with us and this planet. How does he do this and why haven't they stopped him?

I remember you mentioned at one point Milton was on the side who wanted to start the discloser project for mankind but yet there is another side who does not want Man to know anything about them. How can he breach protocol?

If Uranus can detect him coming into there solar system then truly the high ups know everything he is doing with regard to our planet. Can you explain all this cause it is getting very confusing as to how he has no restrains other than to tell you not to reveal this or that?

Look forward to you response.



posted on Sep, 28 2007 @ 01:59 PM
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Hi adica

After reading that to Milton he has been beside himself wanting to know where Scottsdale is. But I’m not going to tell him---



Milton,
Im sorry Sleeper wount tell you were Scottdale is....I would lead you there with a trail of Reeces Pieces if I could


I hope you dont get your feelings hurt by all the teasing about your afinity for dressess..its just us earthlings here like ETs like you with a little personality.....the hollywood ETs are so serious all the time.



posted on Sep, 28 2007 @ 02:16 PM
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A very large part of humanity is afraid of things in this life---mostly stuff they shouldn’t be fearful of, but nevertheless they have irrational fear.

While locked inside the human mind and peering through that reality curtain without higher entity supervision to make sense of what is out there---fear is the name of the game.

We can’t get passed that fear without first getting over some of the silly fears we are faced with everyday while here on this side of the fence.


Sleeper,

Speaking of fears....someone close to me has a tremendous fear of driving as she fears the possiblity of accidents....since there are "no accidents" wouldn't a car accident be somehting in her life plan(or not) or otherwise something she would manifest(or not)?....Is that the nature of most accidents as you understand them?



posted on Sep, 28 2007 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by hihorizon
Hi Sleeper,

Been following your post. Can you please clear some of the ambiguity with regards to Milton and his communication and purpose with you up for me?

I understand his message to start enlightening man-kind slowly of what is really going on behind the curtian but doesn't that make him an appointed ambassador of sorts?


Hi—horizon----you did that on purpose didn’t you---


Milton an ambassador----



1. how old is Milton? Define in our years.


He looks about sixty, claims he is thirty, but I know he is much much older than those two figures, perhaps as old as dirt---but that kind of talk can put you on his bad side---



2. why does he get to communicate with you?


I had written some profound reason but he made me erase it and insisted I write “his streak of bad luck” in its place.

Which is totally untrue, he is the luckiest funny looking thing from outer space I have ever seen.


3. You said there were two or more factions, that are monitoring us with different agenda's (political).


Yes there are, and they operate like politicians on steroids sometimes


4. There has to be a hierarchy in this scene, which oversees this galactic, cosmic and dimensional law because it has been said over and over again that this can't be done and that can be done, etc., and that we are protect from the bad Et's, etc. Who is the higher being that all other ET's adhere to?


These higher beings that are over this planet and others are a few notches above Milton. How they actually operate is mysterious, but they seem to give plenty of leeway to Milton and his counterparts. The renegades are not part of the ruling entities, and are looses cannons which present other types of problems, and contribute to some of the ongoing wars and skirmishes on earth and off earth.


If everything is being monitored, then truly the higher ups know Milton is visiting with you and breaking the code of silence and clandestine activity the ET's are doing with us and this planet. How does he do this and why haven't they stopped him?


They certainly know and are letting it happen


I remember you mentioned at one point Milton was on the side who wanted to start the discloser project for mankind but yet there is another side who does not want Man to know anything about them. How can he breach protocol?


I think he watched too many Star Trek episodes and ended up idolizing Captain Kirk’s insubordination strategy


If Uranus can detect him coming into there solar system then truly the high ups know everything he is doing with regard to our planet. Can you explain all this cause it is getting very confusing as to how he has no restrains other than to tell you not to reveal this or that?


The funny thing about higher up entities is that they are so laid back, and don’t have the hang ups we humans get hung up on---in a way they are bureaucratic, yet many like Milton seem to do as they please



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