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Originally posted by Appak
Originally posted by Jn
i was just asking a question
it was a question about why free masonry is pro tv?
But WHY do you think Freemasonry IS pro tv?
The Rotary Club hasn't eliminated TV, either. My point is Freemasonry has no CONTROL over the existence of TV.
How could it? Why do you think we could in the first place?
I'm a Freemason and I happen to LIKE tv, but I'm sure there are some Masons who do not.
Something must have given you the idea that Freemasonry could control TV?
[edit on 25-12-2006 by Appak]
Originally posted by Jn
i was just asking why they never went against tv, it was introduced around 50 years ago
the question is too much for you appak
Gnosticism vs Paulinism
...Do not confuse modern Freemasonry with Gnosis. Understand that Freemasonry, many many years ago, knew Gnosis. But now they do not. (Even as recent as 250 years ago some masons knew the real Gnosis; for example, some of the founders of America knew it).
Real Gnosis is now being delivered by the students of Samael Aun Weor. Eventually, that movement will be replaced by a new one, in accordance with the developmental needs of the human beings...
Originally posted by lucum per lucerna
After reviewing the subject matter covered in this thread I would have to say...I am more confused than ever. Someone mentioned a movie about Darkness to Light, another about being from Hell, Lucifer is Christ, Satan is a beast that thinks he is a man I don't think I ever been more confused in all of my life.
I like Freemasonry, personally, in fact the feeling the word like implies doesn't even do my actual feelings justice and the truth of that is part of the confusion
I was invited to a dinner at my local lodge a couple of weeks ago but since then a lot things may have changed. I'm not even sure if I should go I want to go, in fact I'm anxious but... I suppose I am a little lost, but I am prepared to cast aside all of my preconceptions regarding the fraternity in an effort to belong.
The Heart Sutra
Avalokiteshvara Bodhisattva, practicing deep Prajna Paramita,
clearly saw that all Five Skandhas are empty, transforming all suffering and distress.
Shariputra, form is no other than emptiness, emptiness no other than form.
Form is exactly emptiness, emptiness exactly form.
Sensation, thought, impulse, consciousness are also like this.
Shariputra, all things are marked by emptiness -
not born, not destroyed,
not stained, not pure,
without gain, without loss.
Therefore in emptiness there is no form, no sensation, thought, impulse, consciousness.
No eye, ear, nose, tongue, body, mind.
No color, sound, smell, taste, touch, object of thought.
No realm of sight to no realm of thought.
No ignorance and also no ending of ignorance to no old age and death and also no ending of old age and death.
No suffering, and also no source of suffering, no annihilation, no path.
No wisdom, also no attainment.
Having nothing to attain, Bodhisattvas live Prajna Paramita with no hindrance in the mind.
No hindrance, thus no fear.
Far beyond delusive thinking, they attain complete Nirvana.
All Buddhas past, present and future live Prajna Paramita and thus attain Anuttara Samyak Sambodhi.
Therefore, know that Prajna Paramita is the great mantra, the wisdom mantra, the unsurpassed mantra, the supreme mantra, which completely removes all suffering. This is truth, not deception. Therefore set forth the prajna paramita mantra, set forth this mantra and say:
GATÉ GATÉ PARAGATÉ PARASAMGATÉ BODHI SVAHA
I hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas, for those that celebrate, and has a happy New Year.
SkepticGreek74 - Thank You. Your posts have been very Entertaining! I was wondering when you were going to mention the big bad "NWO"! Let me quote for you the Buddha - "All Things are Impermanent" - so much for the NWO! So "SkepticGreek74" - from what I take it from your posts - you probably believe that "Worshiping Ignorance" is the "Superior Alternative" to the vile "Luciferianism" that you mentioned! Let me guess your religion is the only "True Religion" & your God is the only "True God" & if we are all not exactly like you & agree on everything then we are "Satanists". Correct? Yes we have all been down this road before as well! It reeks of "Divide & Conquer" to me. Sorry I prefer Liberty & Freedom!
Someone here earlier said that there was big difference between the 'lucifer' mentioned din the Bible and the serpent.. Are you absolutely sure about that?
The reason is because whether we believe in God THROUGH Jesus or in God THROUGH Muhammed or THROUGH any other way we still BELIEVE IN GOD IN THE END.
Originally posted by Great White Cheney
Albert Pike was a Satanic Rascist.
The man was a former leader of the KKK!
If anyone is still debating if Albert Pike was a good person in any way, just slap your self.
Originally posted by Great White Cheney
Albert Pike was a Satanic Rascist.
Arcanum 6: Indecision
...The three traitors constitute the reincarnating Ego, the psychological ‘I,’ the Satan that must be dissolved in order to incarnate the Inner Christ, which is constituted by Kether, Chokmah and Binah. The superior triangle is the Resplendent Dragon of Wisdom whereas the inferior triangle is the Black Dragon.
The sign of the infinite or the Tau Cross is found in the center of the two triangles; both are phallic (sexual) signs. The soul is found between the two triangles and has to decide between the White Dragon and the Black Dragon. Such a dilemma is absolutely sexual...
Venustic Initiation
"The Venustic Initiation is for Real Men only, never for intellectual animals. Let us understand that by "Real Men," we mean those who have built their solar bodies. Let us understand mat by "intellectual animals," we mean all of humanity, all those who possess only lunar bodies. The Venustic Initiation is the real Christmas of the tranquil heart. It is for the few; it is by the grace of the Solar Logos. In nirvana, there exist many Buddhas who, despite their great perfection, have never attained the Venustic Initiation." - from Buddha's Necklace
The Venustic Intiations are the Seven Serpents of Light of the First Mountain plus one more related with the Sephirah Binah.
"The one who sacrifices the self for humanity attains the Venustic Initiation. It is urgent to know that the Venustic Initiation is the incarnation of Christ within the human being. The one who incarnates the Christ in oneself has to live the entire Cosmic Drama. The Venustic Initiation has seven degrees; it begins with the event of Bethlehem and ends with the Death and Resurrection of the Lord. The one who reaches the Venustic Initiation also becomes a Christ. It is only by means of the Three Factors for the Revolution of Consciousness that one attains the Venustic Initiation." - The Esoteric Treatise of Hermetic Astrology
Death of Satan
We discover the entire process of the ‘I’ by comprehending the inner activities of each one of the five inferior centers. The outcome of this self-discovery is the absolute death of Baphomet or Satan (the Tenebrous Lunar ‘I’ or Sinning Adam).
Originally posted by Tamahu
Duality(Ignorance) is only eliminated when we Comprehend it, and by working with the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil(Daath).
Originally posted by Tamahu
Dualism(ignorance) is only eliminated when we Comprehend it, and by working with the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil(Daath).
Master Yeshua:
"Except be ye as little children, you shall not enter Heaven."
Originally posted by Criniit
Lucifer shows up in the old testament in Isaiah 14:12: "How are thou fallen from Heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" Thats the only reference to Lucifer in the King James bible, and it is a Latin name, not a Hebrew one.
The poetic King James Version of the holy bible was translated and published in 1611. It was translated into English not from the original Hebrew text but from the Catholic Vulgate Latin texts that had been authorized by St. Jerome in the fourth century. Unfortunately, not starting with the original Hebrew texts created a few translation problems.
some apocryphal book (Book of Enoch? Book of Eden?) describing Satan as (paraphrasing), "...perfect in appearance...bringing light...".
Originally posted by SkepticGreek74
I officialy belong to the Greek Orthodox Church which loosely translates into english as the greek true glory christian church!
I say officially because onlike many of my fellow greek orthodoxians and other christian sects I truely believe we all respect and pray to the same Jesus, its just the methods that differ. I even respect all the other religions in this world including muslims, jews, buddists and confusicists although i don't really know much about their religions. The reason is because whether we believe in God THROUGH Jesus or in God THROUGH Muhammed or THROUGH any other way we still BELIEVE IN GOD IN THE END, with few exceptions of course.
I think Hindus believe in many gods and maybe an exception!
So what you say above IS REALLY CR_P AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED! One of the biggest reasons our world is so skrewed up is because everybody thinks their religion is better than others and are willing to kill over that. If wars are going to be fought then they should be fought OVER OTHER MORE SUBSTANTIAL REASONS and not because of religion. That is just too lame of an excuse for me!
I agree 100%! They are always trying to blur the lines between good and evil! I and many others will continue being suspicious of the Illuminati until proven otherwise.
The books quoted
Like I said, I've read them at one time, I just don't have the desire to pull out chapter and verse,