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Originally posted by Andy Warhol
Thanks Appak. It just seems that many people imply that to be a good man one needs to join masonry. And well to be honest it's very offensive to think like that. I read some where that skull and bones members refer to outsiders as barbarians and that just doesn't set right with me. I never liked to considered inferior. You know what I mean my friend?
Originally posted by Andy Warhol
Thanks Appak. It just seems that many people imply that to be a good man one needs to join masonry. And well to be honest it's very offensive to think like that. I read some where that skull and bones members refer to outsiders as barbarians and that just doesn't set right with me. I never liked to considered inferior. You know what I mean my friend?
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Since you seem to not even know, a "Luciferian" is a student of the ancient church fathert St. Lucifer of Cagliari. If you don't believe me, look it up.
Lucifer (Latin: lux, lucis, luce, luci, and lucu: “light”; fer, fero: “to bear, carry, support, lift, hold, take up”; these synthesize as “Bearer of Light”)
Before Milton, Lucifer had never been a name of the devil. One of the early Popes of Rome bore that name, and there was even a Christian sect in the fourth century which was called the Luciferians. In Universal Gnosticism, Lucifer is the shadow of the Christ.
To really be able to understand Free-Masonry(especially Scottish Rite) it is IMPERATIVE TO KNOW the OCCULT NUMBER SYSTEM and the SYMBOLOGY associated with each number. For example, the numbers 3,9,11,13,33,39 have special importance to them.
Originally posted by SkepticGreek74
So we have a confessed LUCIFERIAN (666) who created the 33rd degree of masonry and founded
“And the voice (the Word) replies: "He who is aware (of his Being and the essence of his Being), IS! Behold!"
“Gazing about him, Adam finds himself in a radiant (solar) place (the inner circle of Samech), in the midst of which stands a tree with flashing jewels for fruit and entwined about its trunk (is Nachash, the Serpent that healed the Israelites in the Wilderness) a flaming, winged serpent crowned with a diadem of stars. It was the voice of the serpent that had spoken.
"Who are you?" demands the Adam.
"I," the serpent (Nachash) answers, "am (in the inner circle of Samech, the Serpent that healed the Israelites in the Wilderness and in the outer circle of Samech, am) Satan who was stoned (because of your filthy orgasm); I am (Christus-Lucifer, the only begotten, the Light of the Ain Soph,) the Adversary--the Lord who is against you, the one who pleads for your destruction (in the abysses of Klipoth) before the Eternal Tribunal. I was your enemy upon the day that you were formed (from my very essence but ignorant of my nature); (this is why) I have led you into temptation; I have delivered you into the hands of evil; I have maligned you; I have striven ever to achieve your undoing (through a psychological transformation in Alchemy). I am the guardian of the Tree of Knowledge (of my own essence) and I have sworn that none whom I can lead astray (through, fornication, adultery and any filthy sins of the flesh) shall partake of its fruits (which hide the light of my Father the Ain Soph)."
Originally posted by Jn
great, so why did the masons allow the television?
obviously designed to hypnotise
hows it going appak
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Originally posted by ViewFromTheStars
And the semantics fly...
So you pike supporters and your mason minions can take your -generic- 'great architect of the universe'.. you know.. the one you guys designed so that you can fit everyones beliefs into it and you can shove it where the light from your "son of the morning" doesn't shine. Some of us aren't falling for your deception.
And in like manner you can take whatever mental idol you call "God" and worship, and stick it where the view from the stars doesn't shine. Cause, quite simply, I ain't buyin'.
Originally posted by Appak
What do you mean by "allow" the television?
Not sure about it's hypnotic powers, although I do often fall asleep to it.
Originally posted by Jn
Originally posted by Appak
What do you mean by "allow" the television?
Not sure about it's hypnotic powers, although I do often fall asleep to it.
i was asking a question as such, allow was part of the question
its easy to see some of the effects of tv, just look at other people who are watching tv
Originally posted by Appak
Yes, but I don't understand the question. What do Masons have to do with Television? We're a fraternity, we have no control over TV (except the ones in our own homes) We certainly can't suppress it, so again, I don't quite grasp what you're asking.
Originally posted by Jn
i am asking as well, i was asking then why are masons pro tv?
Originally posted by Jn
great, so why did the masons allow the television?
obviously designed to hypnotise
Fear Factor and the Joys of Television
Initiation into the Black Lodge is happening on television everyday.
Fear Factor: "Where else can you see well-built hunks and curvaceous women vie for $50,000 by competing in such stunts as driving a car underneath a moving truck or into a head-on collision? And that's the easy stuff. They also take part in gross-out contests such as seeing who can eat the most spiders or who can last longest submerged in a vat filled with snakes, rats or worms."
The most popular shows on television are all centered around lust, greed, pride, anger, and envy...
Want To Watch Television?
Have you ever meditated even once on the danger of erotic images? Remember that within your mind you have a skilful translator. This translator is the “I,” who always betrays the devotees of the Path. This “I” creates mental effigies, living demons of the Mental Plane. The devotees fornicate with these demons in the Mental Plane.
The movie theatres are true temples of Black Magic of the Mental Plane, because the mind creates living effigies, tempting demons which are absolute duplicates of the erotic images that we have seen in the movies or in the newspapers or in pornographic magazines.
The “I” betrays us in other levels of consciousness. A simple erotic word becomes fornication within the Mental World.
Do not deceive yourself with the "belief" that you can transform what you see on television.
Originally posted by Appak
Jn,
We're going in circles here. Masons are neither "pro" nor "con" as far as TV. We're a fraternity and have not official connection with television (except that we've produced from time to time, educational videos, etc. for our membership or the world at large.
Where did you see that the Masonic fraternity was "pro TV"?
Originally posted by ViewFromTheStars
Believe it or not, what I said was 20% supposed to be humorous but the other 80%, well.. I guess this kind of response was warranted.
So yes... I will believe in my Lord and God... JESUS.
How can you believe in Jesus if you also believe that the God of Jesus is the same 'one' of allah, or budha. Quite simply you can not.
Someone here earlier said that there was big difference between the 'lucifer' mentioned din the Bible and the serpent.. Are you absolutely sure about that?
Well Merry Christmas all and of course a happy new year.
Originally posted by Jn
they havnt stopped tv, so you see where the pro tv comes from
Originally posted by Appak
You're pretty confused huh Jn? Do you honestly think the Masonic Fraternity (you DO know what a "Fraternity" is don't you?) could (or even WOULD) stop TV?
If so, HOW?
And WHY?
Originally posted by Jn
i was just asking a question
it was a question about why free masonry is pro tv?