No.

(Please note that the answer to the question should require no more commentary. To make sure this is not a one liner, the answer to the question "is torture ok," is resoundingly NO. Such a thing is an enemy to everything the United States of America has fought for during all the years it has existed. Just because this cult of torture has hijacked the government, does make it "okay." It is not okay at all period. People who are going along with it, simply show their brain dead agreement with subliminal television, and twisted media persuasion. You know this evaluation is right in your conscience. )

What are we saying torture is again ? Physical abuse, mind screwing ?

I think if they know lots of info about an important thing ... like where a terrorisom attack it planed they should be tortured harshly but if it's something smaller then just slight tortured should be used.

Originally posted by miss_gymnast004
I think if they know lots of info about an important thing ... like where a terrorisom attack it planed they should be tortured harshly but if it's something smaller then just slight tortured should be used.

A question for you miss_gymnast004 and other members.

Would you volunteer for a torture experiment presented in my link above?

Hmmm...

Interesting.

No questions, no comments.

I guess the documentary was to much fo someones fragile sensitivities.

Here's a question (and to give credit it's more or less taken, or at least inspired, from the article Liberalism, Torture, and the Ticking Time Bomb adapted from a Law Review article by David Luban in the March 2006 issue of Harper's):

Many people who support torture, even in limited form (almost always in limited form, as no one really supports a blanket policy of mass torture), refer to the ticking time bomb argument- that is, more or less, torture might be justified in instances where the information possibly extracted could save lives- possibly a great number of lives. The harm done to the tortured individual is considered justified in light of the lives potentially saved as a result.

Now, torturing suspected terrorists or criminals or whoever, who may hold such information, might not always be effective, because the person who has the crucial information might either die or be rendered unconscious in the course of torturing, or they might simply have a very high tolerance to pain or stress.

So... the question is... why not torture their loved ones instead?

After all, if 1,000 lives or more could be saved, if the WTC tower attacks could have been prevented, say, by torturing one individual, why not increase the effectiveness and chances of saving those lives by, say, torturing that individuals wife in front of him? Or child? Either way, the bomb is still ticking, right?

Historically, this has been done, it probably still is being done, but just speaking theoretically, how would say, Alberto Gonzalez have answered these questions if he was redrafting the torture memos, as a purely theoretical policy matter? How would you?

[edit on 6-4-2006 by koji_K]

Good question.

I believe messing with a persons mind is much more effective. I feel physical torture is more vengefull and evil than anything else. I think that one who resorts to physical torture is weak. There is no reason for it. You can make a person break and beg to tell you the truth with out ever touching them. IMHO, a person who resorts to physically torturing someone is like a wolf who has tasted blood. When a person is being physically tortured, the only one who has been broken is the person doing the torturing. I know as a fact that it is quicker and more effective to mess with a persons mind - with or with out drugs - than it is to physically torture them.

Originally posted by koji_K

So... the question is... why not torture their loved ones instead?

[edit on 6-4-2006 by koji_K]

Which then begs the question - what if it was YOUR mother, YOUR wife or even YOU who was the suspects loved one? Would you then advocate YOUR OWN torture in order to extract information from a suspect?

This is a dangerous road to travel. What gives anyone the right to torture someone because of another persons action?

When you start down this path, you have removed the liberties that we aim to protect.