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Originally posted by Nygdan
Originally posted by Griff
To me, this is unequallity at it's best. If cities/states want there to be no smoking, they need to offer the smokers a place to go to smoke.
Why? We don't let people smoke crack, anywhere, so not being able to smoke
Cigarette butts and cigarette packets cause litter. Smokers in the U.K. throw away about 20 million cigarette packets and about 300 million butts every day (which is a huge amount!). Many of these end up adding litter to the streets, dirtying floors and damaging furniture.
Smoking is linked to accidental damage and loss of life through fire. Tobacco contains additives to keep the cigarette alight - this increases the risk of fire.
Some fires are started by small children playing with matches or lighters which have been left around by smokers.
Throwing away a lighted cigarette or match near a forest can be very dangerous. A forest fire destroys everything in its path. Because young trees are destroyed along with older trees the damage is long-lasting and expensive.
Cigarettes are made from dried leaves of tobacco plants. Tobacco is grown in many parts of the world, especially in the poorer, developing countries - e.g. Brazil and India. Growing tobacco is a way for these countries to make much needed money.
Many poorer countries use wood to dry tobacco and have to cut down many trees to do this. In countries where wood is used for cooking and heating then if it is also used to dry tobacco, there is less for the people to use to cook their food and heat their homes.
Tobacco companies encourage many local farmers in the poorer countries to grow tobacco instead of food even when there are food shortages. This can mean less food available for the local community.
Tobacco plants take more nutrients from the soil than many other crops and because of this the land is made less fit for growing food.
Cutting down Forests
Cigarettes are wrapped in paper and are sold in packets. They use large amounts of paper and therefore a lot of trees.
Cutting down trees is one of the biggest threats to our environment. Tree roots bind the soil together. The leaves draw moisture into the air. When the trees are cut down, rainfall is reduced and erosion of the soil is increased. This can leave a bare landscape where nothing useful can be grown. Land which might have been used for food crops may be useless.
Originally posted by DYepes
to those who smoke here, what exactly do you enjoy about the cigarettes you smoke?
Originally posted by jakeolsen2219
Originally posted by Agit8dChop
Making a consumable ADDICTIVE, that knowingly kills people.. should not be legal in any way shape or form.
hostile because people fly of the 'sane' argument are relate buses , fatty foods to cigerettes.
alchohol may ruin lives, but its not ADDICTIVE.. it
For one, Alcohol IS addictive. How can you say that its not?? It also kills countless people with alcohol poisoning, and drunk driving related deaths.That pretty much discounts you as uninformed about everything you speak about.
Caffiene is also addictive. Would you like us to ban coffee?? Soda??
Of course not, because YOU like to enjoy these ADDICTIVE consumables.
How would you like to know that the american cancer society has put forth a study indicating caffeine as a carcinogen? I guess you'd also be glad to know that doctors are recommending pregnant women to seriously decrease their caffeine intake, because they are seeing birth defects similar to that of smokers from caffeine consumers.
The problem with addictive consumables, is that they are only alright to consume, although they are harmful, if the majority of the population enjoys them. Smokers are an easy pick, because they make up a minority group now.
Alcohol kills more innocent people than second hand smoke does, for sure.
Before you suggest that they destroy my rights, you better make me a list of things you like to do, so I can take it to the government, and have them ban your lifestyle. Don't worry though, because if you smoking nazi's allow them to create laws that set precedents like government infringement on the rights of business owners, than I'm sure pretty soon it will come back to bite you in the arss.
Originally posted by Broncbuster
I applaud the city of Belmont. My only problem is they didn’t take this serious issue far enough.
All U.S. cities should ban:
1. The burning of wood. Wood combustion contains more than 100 pollutants, several of which are carcinogenic. I want to enjoy my walk outside, in my neighborhood, instead of inhaling that disgusting chimney smoke. I CHOSE to go to a bonfire rally in college, that was horrible. My clothes stunk of smoke, my eyes were burning and I had to inhale that carcinogenic smoke in a public place.
2. Vegetables and fruit. Exposure to pesticide on fruits and vegetables has been linked to an increased risk of cancer. Hey you, put down that cancer carrot stick!!! Even worse, pesticides can attach to dust particles and travel into MY HOME.
3. Fast food. Those fatty, greasy foods lead to high blood pressure and heart attacks. I’m tired of paying high health care costs because of these fast food restaurants. Oh wait, I can’t remember today which group was responsible for high health care costs. Was it fast food eaters or the illegal immigrants or the cost of medical technology or those damn smokers, etc. Ahh, forget it, I’ll start a lobbying organization and we’ll eventually get rid of them all.
4. You want to put on deodorant after working out at the gym? You better use a roll-on, because aerosol has been linked to cancer and you don’t have the right to risk my health because you want to smell good. Hair spray, not today. Hair spray, not today. Ban it all!!!
Oh well, I suppose this could go on all day long. I guess freedom wasn’t such a great idea after all…