I am sorry you feel that the point I am trying to make is immature and connot be discussed, I beg to differ. I am also not an anachist, never was.
Maybe I didn't put it out clearly enough.
So here it is again:
I feel that every responsible citizen has not only the right but also duty to protest and show civil disobedience
. Here's the link that
explains the term: en.wikipedia.org...
I believe that breaking certain laws, especially those that aim to supress the freedom of expression (be that state, federal or municipial
regulations) is necessary to preserve the above said freedom. Otherwise you end up with a totalitarian country.
Now to address your post:
...your constitutional rights to peaceably protest are void when that protest becomes violent...
1. In political protests violence is mostly instigated by the police or provocateurs in the crowd. It's easy to provoke the crowd to violence.
2. Do you think that the violent protests against totalitarian goverments of Poland, Eastern Germany, Soviet Union were wrong and the goverments had
the right to shoot people, beat them up and arrest them? As far as I remember those protests were actively supported by the USA gov. So do we have an
equal measure here and abroad or not? Without those protests the world would still be divided with the iron curtain.
This topic is about the FTAA protest - I have shown video's, photos, and documents supporting my argument that the protest was violent. There was
fires, assault, destruction of property, and graffiti on walls, mainly giant A's with circles around them. Yeah that's right an Anarchy symbol. And
what do you know... we have an anarchist trying to twist the peoples illegal activities around, and make the police look like the bad guys.
Your point is valid as far as the topic of the discussion, I am trying to make a more general point that I still think pertains to the topic. If you
think I am OT please let me know, but don't resort to name calling. I don't.
The police made themselves look bad by deliberately targetting that woman, who at best was provocative but clearly was not violent, and then cheering
themselves on afterwards. I don't see them fishing out the bad guys from the crowd.
Again, not all illegal activities are bad just before they break a law. A law was made by people and can be changed by people, some laws and
regulations are unlawful and going against higher values like freeedom.
I truly hope you are at the next protest that gets out of control like this one.... I want to see the video of you getting a pellet in the head.. I
I truly hope this is just the emotions speaking through you. I do not wish you harm. In fact I hope you stay safe although I might disagree with
Grow up... If there ever is a "police state" it wont ever be in your lifetime.
I don't know what makes you so sure of it. The system of checks and ballances in the USA has been suspended in favour of the executive power. I
personally think that the threat of USA becoming a police state is quite high. Especially if the majority of people are not prepared to make a stand
for their believes.
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