I tried it, I think about 2 or 3 years ago. I noticed that when I took it I came out in hives, however I was breaking out with them (on my arms) quite a bit in that period but it seemed to make it more pronounced. I found out there was a conspiracy about them and threw 'em away. I remember telling myself never, ever, take any stuff again with out full and proper research first.

You say you got good results? What type? Are you still taking it now?

Originally posted by Dae
I tried it, I think about 2 or 3 years ago. I noticed that when I took it I came out in hives, however I was breaking out with them (on my arms) quite a bit in that period but it seemed to make it more pronounced. I found out there was a conspiracy about them and threw 'em away. I remember telling myself never, ever, take any stuff again with out full and proper research first.

You say you got good results? What type? Are you still taking it now?

I'm using the stuff from ZPTECH, ... I took their intro elixir to get the brain ready for the high-spin powders/elixirs... broke right now and cannot afford the next level, but yeh I notice a big change in focus, being more reposed, happy,... health really isn't a concern since I'm usually always healthy, but I imagine it's helped.. more receptive to peoples energies and stuff that is hard to describe aswell... more than anything I would say it's been 100% positive, although the changes are suddle and most people won't notice them, it's only because of my research that I attribute to feeling the changes.

dnero, if you do not allow your spirituality to develop naturally (ie without the help of drugs "Monatomic gold" or whatever it may be) you may find yourself in a heap of trouble with no "psychic abilities." The conspiracy about these products (or one of them) is that it does not enhance your tk abilities, but merely pronounces them for a short period of time then entirely ruins them. I believe this to be the case which is why I don't plan on taking it. I read "Solomons Temple by Laurence Gardener and he mentions the healing properties of monatomic gold. However, as has been pretty well documented, LG has done a bit of disinformation and is possibly illuminati, nwo, reptile whatever. I have not done the proper research behind this stuff, but I would recommend staying away from it and letting your body evolve through your own workings. Thanks...

Originally posted by biggie smalls
dnero, if you do not allow your spirituality to develop naturally (ie without the help of drugs "Monatomic gold" or whatever it may be) you may find yourself in a heap of trouble with no "psychic abilities." The conspiracy about these products (or one of them) is that it does not enhance your tk abilities, but merely pronounces them for a short period of time then entirely ruins them. I believe this to be the case which is why I don't plan on taking it. I read "Solomons Temple by Laurence Gardener and he mentions the healing properties of monatomic gold. However, as has been pretty well documented, LG has done a bit of disinformation and is possibly illuminati, nwo, reptile whatever. I have not done the proper research behind this stuff, but I would recommend staying away from it and letting your body evolve through your own workings. Thanks...

each to their own, I don't believe by altering ones intake you can 'ruin' your abilities what-so-ever... but thats my opinion... disinfo or not, I've used it and as of yet nothing is 'ruined' or 'unruined' .. perhaps it also depends it one can maintain the freq, or spin... there are a lot of variables to take into account, especially the fact I'm strange.

Originally posted by dnero6911
each to their own, I don't believe by altering ones intake you can 'ruin' your abilities what-so-ever... but thats my opinion... disinfo or not, I've used it and as of yet nothing is 'ruined' or 'unruined' .. perhaps it also depends it one can maintain the freq, or spin... there are a lot of variables to take into account, especially the fact I'm strange.

Yes you are right in some aspects. However, if you use drugs solely to enhance the connection to First Source then you are devolving yourself...If you RELY on the drugs for the spiritual progress you wish to achieve then you will not make a lasting connection. It seems though you wish to put the effort in regarding enlightenment, awakening, etc and will find what you are seeking. Good luck on your journey.

Originally posted by biggie smalls

Originally posted by dnero6911
each to their own, I don't believe by altering ones intake you can 'ruin' your abilities what-so-ever... but thats my opinion... disinfo or not, I've used it and as of yet nothing is 'ruined' or 'unruined' .. perhaps it also depends it one can maintain the freq, or spin... there are a lot of variables to take into account, especially the fact I'm strange.

Yes you are right in some aspects. However, if you use drugs solely to enhance the connection to First Source then you are devolving yourself...If you RELY on the drugs for the spiritual progress you wish to achieve then you will not make a lasting connection. It seems though you wish to put the effort in regarding enlightenment, awakening, etc and will find what you are seeking. Good luck on your journey.

that is mans down-fall, relying ... you said it perfectly... Holding things above oneself, or as a means to BE oneself is wrong. Once you've achieved something there is no need to reachieve it.

Alchemy was never the search for enlightment through physical means. It is the path for spiritual awareness and improvement. Any advertisement selling Gold, "white powder gold" or any other concoction as a means of Alchemy is false and should be avoided. Any reference in Alchemy to gold, is not in reference to the physical metal.



What exactly is "white powdered Gold"..? there is no chemical certification, no atomic number, nothing. Is this the creation of a good marketing program..??

You can make your own Collodial Gold drink, very easily. It will cost you next to nothing, other than the initial purchase of a small amount of Pure gold. It will certainly cost you less than the pricing indicated on these websites, and you can use the same small pure gold thousands of times over.
Collodial Gold does have scientific backing for health improvement, especially with joint and certain other ailments.

Well I see various incorrect statements here starting with the last one.

Alchemy has 2 streams. One is the psychological development in order to reach "enlightentment" and the other aspect is the more chemical approach. People who claim that only the psychological aspect is beneficial and neglect the chemical research that is part of alchemy are people who don't know about alchemy.

Alchemists did have "concoctions" that were beneficial to the mind and body. The elixer of life, which I've made myself as well for the Ostara festival. And such more, each "potion" with its own characteristics and usage. However these drinks and ointments are not means to get "enlightent" they are tools that can be used to cleanse/heal your body and mind...tools that can aid you and get you more in tune with everything occuring around and within you.

These elixers and powders are NOT drugs, just how entheogens are NOT drugs. They are mere tools that can be utilized.

White Powder Gold is also an alchemical compound which holds incredible possibilities when hearing the stories. However this is one thing that I've never worked with before so that's why I'm still in the process of researching it myself. Still I don't belief those stories, because that would mean that White Powder Gold is the Philosopher's Stone. You can test it for placebo effect, because according to various testaments it would heal injuries on the spot.

HM...

I thought alchemy was trying to turn other metals into gold. . .

This stuff sounds interesting, but slightly gimicky to me.

I've read the websites posted and I want to belive...my own work with energized crystals has produced amazing work. Ive been using magnets and metorites with my injured thumb in addition to purposefull meditation on healing...I thought I had broken a bone, but its not even two weeks and it's nearly fully healed!...This stuff sounds like cellular crystal/magnetic therapy..?

Alchemy is about transformation according to the Great Work. There are 9 processes aquired to go through. This principle is applicable to anything in life and is not limited to metals only, but also to the soul. Turning base metal into gold is the common image of alchemy. However it is an image that is incorrect and when people who persue alchemy find this out they usually quit. Great method of seperating the fools from the dedicated and devoted alchemist.

OK, what is the chemical symbol for White Powder Gold..?
What are its compounds..?


Alchemy is not to be confused with Chemistry. they are two very seperate branches of science / philosophy.

True ancient Alchemy was a search for the after life. The philosophers stone is not a physical object, but a level of spiritual understanding, Eternal Life of the Soul.
Alchemiac writings used symbols and analogies to disguise their true intent, people who did not understand spent their lives trying to convert base metal into Gold unsuccesfully. Those that understood meanings experienced a glimpse of eternity.

Originally posted by toolman
Alchemy is not to be confused with Chemistry. they are two very seperate branches of science / philosophy.

Uhm...no

Alchemy is both the psychological as well as the chemical approach. It wasn't till the 17th century when the scientists of those days took a part of it and turned it into what we know as chemistry today.

If you study alchemy in the traditional form you'll be tracing it back to Roman/Greek times, Arab Times, Egyptian. You'll see that there are also other variants around the globe with the same foundations. Where do you think Asians came up with gunpowder and such? That wasn't chemistry, but Alchemy which made use of the aspect known as chemistry today. But Alchemy still is chemistry as well no matter what.

So seeing alchemy and chemistry as 2 things is...well...incomplete. Alchemy can be used as chemistry, but chemistry can not be alchemy. Only in todays view thery are seen as 2 different things, but not when put into the context where it belongs and where it came from. Modern times has butchered and bastardized a lot and this is one of em.

Alchemy was used for many reasons and not just for spiritual growth and to understand life from a philosophical point of view. If I said that to my alchemical friend he'd point and laugh and then continue his work.

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Alchemy is both the psychological as well as the chemical approach. It wasn't till the 17th century when the scientists of those days took a part of it and turned it into what we know as chemistry today.

If you study alchemy in the traditional form you'll be tracing it back to Roman/Greek times, Arab Times, Egyptian. You'll see that there are also other variants around the globe with the same foundations. Where do you think Asians came up with gunpowder and such? That wasn't chemistry, but Alchemy which made use of the aspect known as chemistry today. But Alchemy still is chemistry as well no matter what.

So seeing alchemy and chemistry as 2 things is...well...incomplete. Alchemy can be used as chemistry, but chemistry can not be alchemy. Only in todays view thery are seen as 2 different things, but not when put into the context where it belongs and where it came from. Modern times has butchered and bastardized a lot and this is one of em.

Alchemy was used for many reasons and not just for spiritual growth and to understand life from a philosophical point of view. If I said that to my alchemical friend he'd point and laugh and then continue his work """


You have it backwards;


The writings of Alchemists are philosophical and spiritual ; the works of CHang Tao Ling, were meditative and and cultivated pure virtue from China. Hermes Trismegistus surviving documents are the emerald tablet, the asclepian Dialogues, and divine pymander. The corpus Hermiticum is another good work worth reading.
Before you continue discussing Alchemy, you should stop and read these works by the earliest creators of the Art, understand what is being taught.

Alchemy is the study of universal truths, spiritual and otherwise, with the precept that all manifestation is from a single source.
Alchemy evolved into Chemistry, for various reasons. But the true path of Alchemy has always been spiritual.

If your freind would point and laugh, the teachings of Alchemy have gone right over his head, his work has become Vanity.

Okay now lets relate that to Monatomic Gold Powder. get digging people, you've uncovered some useful information, now apply it to the subject.. apply those brain-washed school tactics that work so well..

Icarus I am reading the same book! Isn't it really a cool book? I love the idea that there may be in this material anti gravity, elixiers of life, and above all a new and super wonder drugs for us all...

people the books an ace read and really really informative.

So I guess i'll do as the thread suggests, and get digging !! : )

ive got something here called
Laurence Gardner - Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark.avi thats 440MB
i reccomend it for anyone to lazy to read the book, its a good watch