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Originally posted by TarzanBeta
I may not be a veteran member of any sort... and I by no means think I'm better than anyone, for the record.
but... den, it is common courtesy to read all of the posts in a thread before ranting in such a manner.
EVERYTHING IS AN OPINION. External sources, they're opinions. They're just more respectable opinions. For you to tell us that all of these is just our OPINIONS, no #, sir. For you to imply that what you say is gospel is putting yourself on a level above us. The only level I can think of above humankind would be... God.
Are you a god?
By the way, this is my normal tone, I am not trying to offend, simply making a point which is quite obviously MHO.
Originally posted by Mouth
Ok, first off, Someone, I think it was zappafan, a few pages ago referred to me as a hippie from the 60's or something. Well, There was a major reason for that movement... you know, that ridiculous catastrophe called Vietnam? Something like a 60 second average life expectancy. I can see alot of similarities between that war in this one, especially when discussing justification. What makes us think we are acting justly (in the eyes of the government)? Leave that one for discussion.
I mean, do we have to over the laundry list again for all the bad things that has happened during this presidency? You think that you can equate this presidency to any other in the past 5 decades?
My patience ran out once one of my friends came home from iraq with shrapnel scars, boasting a kill count of 47, 10 on them children that were running at him with grenades. children with grenades.
You honestly think 1000 years from now we are still going to be fighting over this little rock? I surely hope not. It really is the stubbornness of the masses that is holding itself back.
Actually, as that is an outside source that looks at in THEIR opinion, that very well may not be what Mohammad meant.....
Think about how much Bush refers to this work being "God's plan".....what God would approve of the unnecessary deaths of thousands?
".... oh yes it was probably the best because it was prepared"
Even the bible and torah have punishment for leaving there religon.
"....Bush puts the "tax and spend" Democrats to shame. I'm also a small government conservative, and in no way is George W. Bush a conservative in that regard either.
"....You are aware that we incarcerate more people (per capita) than any other country on the planet? And we have the gall to talk about how free our citizens are?
"We must take time to restore chaos".
We did not elect this pResident. The Republicans cheated.
The day will come when they will hang by the neck until dead.
we saw them violate and trample not only our own laws----but also because they have violated international, human and cosmic laws.
Ok, first off, Someone, I think it was zappafan, a few pages ago referred to me as a hippie from the 60's or something. Well, There was a major reason for that movement... you know, that ridiculous catastrophe called Vietnam?
With Vietnam we decided to go there to orginally help out the french in there war
My patience ran out once one of my friends came home from iraq with shrapnel scars, boasting a kill count of 47, 10 on them children that were running at him with grenades.
originally posted by 2manyquestions
The U.S. has been hated by the rest of the world for many decades, and that was before Bush.
Completely incorrect, I've heard several stories from ex military guys, (not personally) about the horrific bloodshed in Vietnam. You talk like it doesn't matter.
Nope, what do you have to say about diebold, and Karl Rove's management of the campaign?
Of course, that explains that extreme deficit, and destruction of the surplus funds.
Originally posted by zappafan1
The top 3% of "the rich" pay over 85% of our taxes.
The top 3% of "the rich" pay over 85% of our taxes.
"How is funding 'Health and Human Services' unconstitutional?
The mark of a civilized society is how it takes care of the young and old.
You must feel very ripped off
I've heard quite alot of people who talk like you, and you know what they all share in common? They're living very comfortable lives. Afterall, why would you support or understand concepts of welfare if everything is "fine" for you.
If one day your life broke down, you'd be telling a very different story indeed.
So you resent the fact that some of your taxes go to helping people in need?
I agree in setting up welfare as an independent system, but to remain effective and controllable it will and always has been a government function.
Originally posted by johnlear
What bothers me the most about our current situation is the hate-mongering against arab/muslims fostered by most of the talk show radio hosts. Day after day after day you hear everyone of those guys talk about those 'dirty rotten muslims', and those 'dirty rotten arabs', who hate our freedom and hate our way of life.