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posted on Oct, 25 2002 @ 05:33 PM
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The name of the real mister X.

Col. L. Fletcher Prouty.



The Col. L Fletcher Prouty Reference Site is a focal point where researchers can locate and retrieve articles, books, videos, and tapes on a variety of subjects which Fletcher has written and participated in.

Col. Prouty spent 9 of his 23 year military career in the Pentagon (1955-1964): 2 years with the Secretary of Defense, 2 years with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and 5 years with Headquarters, U.S. Air Force. In 1955 he was appointed the first "Focal Point" officer between the CIA and the Air Force for Clandestine Operations per National Security Council Directive 5412. He was Briefing Officer for the Secretary of Defense (1960-1961), and for the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

At times he would be called to meet with Allen Dulles and John Foster Dulles at their home on highly classified business. He was assigned to attend MKULTRA meetings. In this capacity Col. Prouty would be at the nerve center of the Military-Industrial Complex at a time unequalled in American History. He has written on these subjects, about the JFK assassination, the Cold War period, and Vietnamese warfare, and the existence of a "Secret Team". He backs up his his work with seldom seen or mentioned official documents - some never before released.

Fletcher Prouty offers a rare glimpse of the "Power Elite" as described by Buckminster Fuller, or "The High Cabal" as Winston Churchill refered to them; and how they really operate. Those who have not been in a position to witness events such as these from the inside would not understand how invisible but ultimately effective they and their power structures are.








Left to right Allen Dulles, Gen. Ed Lansdale, Gen. Charles P. Cabell, Mr. Nathan Twining.

Allen Dulles the former head of the CIA who was sacked by kennedy and who hated kennedy.

Kennedy was going to dismantel the CIA.





General Ed Lansdale the CIA MAN photographed in Dealy Plaza with the tramps.

Why was General Ed Lansdale in Dealey Plaza?
Those who knew him, say this man is Ed Lansdale. Photo taken Nov. 22, 1963.





Gen. Charles Cabel The deputy director of the CIA, He was directly involved in the bay of pigs incident and hated kennedy.

Gen. Charles Cabels brother Earle Cabel just happened to be the Mayor of Dallas on that fateful Nov.22nd, 1963.



The JFK Assassination
By David Giamarco 1998

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WASHINGTON - With the quick crack of gunshots in Dallas's Dealey Plaza that terminated the life and presidency of John Fitzgerald Kennedy continues to reverberate 33 years later. But the shock of the assassination is now overshadowed by dismay over the ruthless cover-up of what may be the greatest unsolved crime of the century.

Today the 1964 report of the Warren commission reads like a fairy tale. As the lone assassin Lee Harvey Oswald was ruled to have fired three bullets from a rusted Manlicher-Carcano rifle with a misaligned scope in just 5.6 seconds, one bullet missing the target leaving just two to cause eight wounds to Kennedy and Texas Governor John Connally.

A Gallup poll taken two weeks after the assassination found 52 per cent of Americans believed there had been a conspiracy to kill the president. By 1993 CBS News poll found 89 per cent of the population believed in the conspiracy and 81 per cent believed there was an official cover-up.

Over the past three decades, dozens of official and semi-official sources have come forward with their own evidence. "I no longer feel we simply had no credible evidence or reliable evidence in proof of a conspiracy," former Warren commissioner John J. McCloy admitted in 1978.

William Sullivan, Domestic Intelligence Chief, also doubted the findings saying, "there were huge gaps in the case, gaps we never did close." And Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry later stated he believed that two gunmen were involved.

"We don't have any proof that Oswald fired the rifle," Curry said in 1969. Kennedy's own aid Kenneth O'Donnell, who rode in the motorcade immediately behind the president, told House Speaker Tip O'Neil that he was pressured by the FBI not to say what he strongly believed: that gunfire came from in front of the motorcade. The House Select Committee on Assassinations concluded in 1978 that there had "probably" been a conspiracy in Dealey Plaza.

For one top level Washington insider, it didn't take that long for he truth about the JFK assassination to become frighteningly clear.

It was a coup d 'etat, not an assassination of one man,'' says Fletcher Prouty. "It was a very well planned overthrow of the government."

Prouty, a retired colonel of the U.S. Air Force jet pilot and former professor of air science anti tactics at Yale University, was Chief of Special Operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the Kennedy years. He spent nine years in charge of the global system providing military support for the clandestine activities of the Central Intelligence Agency: Black Ops, assassinations, coups d'etat, election riggings, propaganda and psych-warfare.

As a high-ranking military operative, Prouty was often the briefing officer for the chiefs in matters involving the CIA. By fall 1963, Prouty knew as much as anyone about the inner workings of the world of Special Operations. In fact, the character of "X" played by Donald Sutherland in Oliver Stone's "JFK" was based on Prouty.

Now 82, Prouty is revealing explosive and damning information about the assassination that few insiders have had the guts to disclose before.

He has written two books, "The Secret Team, The CIA and it allies in control of the World" (Prentice-Hall) and "JFK, The CIA, Vietnam and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy" (Birch Lane Press).

For the last three decades, independent researchers have uncovered important details and red herrings. Everyone had a theory: it was either the Mafia, the KGB, Fidel Castro, anti Castro Cubans or the CIA. Study the volatile political climate at the height of the Cold war and the players and pawns on the high-stakes chess board of 1960 American politics become obvious. A mistake is to assume only one faction was involved. In the early 1960s, the CIA was working hand-in-glove with the Mafia and anti-Castro Cubans to topple Fidel Castro. The Cubans wanted to regain their homelands, the mob wanted their cash and lucrative casinos, and the CIA wouldn't settle for a communist country less than 150 kilometers from the shores of America, let alone the loss of American investments. With the front organizations doing the dirty work, the agency camouflaged its involvement with as many red herrings as necessary.

Kennedy had certainly created formidable enemies within the government during his first 1,000 days in office, including FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, CIA Director Allen Dulles (fired by Kennedy after the Bay of Pigs disaster), several powerful factions of the CIA, and the anti-Castro Cuban community.

Horrified by the agency's involvement - and its Mafia connections - Kennedy refused to allow a second invasion of Cuba and vowed to "smash the CIA into a thousand pieces." He made a pact with Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev to stop the assassination attempts against Castro. When Kennedy learned the CIA had ignored his direct orders he sent the FBI and local law agencies to close down the agency's s training camps in Florida and Louisiana. With Attorney General Robert Kennedy waging war on the Mafia on one hand, and the president's decision not to invade Cuba a second time on other, the mob would never see its profitable Cuban operations again. A boiling cesspool of bitterness and greed was swirling around JFK. He was a marked man.

But Prouty scoffs at those who believe the Mafia orchestrated JFK's murder.

"From my official experience, I know that there are two parts to any assassination. One, the hit, and two, the cover-up. By far and away the cover story is the most difficult. It requires the most professionalism and creative ability. The cover story must continue for years, as the JFK scenario does. The Mafia, Castro, etc. could not have done part two and have maintained it for 33 years."

"I have worked on assassinations and I know the business." he continues. "The master plan was fantastic."

The decision to kill Kennedy, Prouty asserts, was actually made within the military industrial complex to preserve the enormous dollar potential of the Vietnam War - orchestrated by the CIA from 1945 to l965.

Prouty was one of the authors of National Security Action Memorandum #263, which outlined Kennedy's plan to have 1,000 military men home by Christmas and all U.S. personnel out of Vietnam by the end of 1965. He says the word "personnel" rather than "military" meant that JFK was planning to get CIA people out too. NSAM #263 was the straw that broke the camel s back," says Prouty. "It made elements of the military-industrial complex purchase nails for JFK's coffin."

On the day after JFK's funeral, newly sworn-in president Lyndon B. Johnson signed NSAM 273, reversing Kennedy's orders and increasing troops in Vietnam. By NSAM #288, dated March 26, 1964, a total reversal was completed.

But where was Prouty during the assassination? The South Pole.

Prouty had been sent as the military escort for a group of international VIPs. It had nothing to tit1 with Special Operations: it was deemed a "paid vacation." It was on his way back, during a stopover in New Zealand, that Prouty heard of Kennedy's murder. Immediately, things didn't fit. New Zealand's Christchurch Star carried a full story about Lee Harvey Oswald, an unknown 24 year old, complete with a studio picture and detailed biographical data including his trip to the Soviet Union. But Oswald had hot yet been charged with Kennedy's murder.

"Who the hell wrote the story before the police had charged him?" asks Prouty.

"It was a put-up job. It was a worldwide cover story being put out".

When Prouty returned to the Pentagon where he had access to newspaper, special reports and hot wires from around the world, he was stuck again by the "packaged'' Oswald story.

"I knew immediately the story was written before the shots were even fired... Oswald was a designated patsy whether he shot or not."

Prouty was shocked by security breaches along the Presidents motorcade route especially Dealey Plaza. "The Secret Service should have men all along the route," he says. "Especially in a hostile city like Dallas."

One of his routine duties had he been in Washington would be to arrange additional security in Texas.

"I checked back and I found out that someone had told 112th Intelligence Group at the Army Headquarters at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio to "stand down" that day over the protests of the unit commander Col. Reich. When I talked to a member of that army unit later, I was told that the commander had offered the services of his unit for protection for the entire trip through Texas, and he was point -blank and categorically refused and there were hot words between agencies. Even Secret Service men from Fort Worth were told that they would not he needed in Dallas."

That's not all. Those wide-open and empty windows over looking Dealey Plaza were another major security breach. So was slowing the Presidents car to 12 kilometers per hour. To take that unusual 90 degree curve at Huston and Elm street - a last minute addition to the motorcade route.

"An assassination like this doesn't happen with some kid shooting by himself", states Prouty. "I mean my God, he wouldn't have made it out of the building alive. It would have been over right there on the front steps of the building. But there were very few police anywhere." "The streets should have been filled with military. The military were all trained for this. If you see a man open an umbrella, just go stand beside him. And just about that time, the President's coming and he moves that umbrella, you knock him down. A man with a coat over his arm, or holding a rolled up newspaper, you stand beside him. You watch everything. We take guys down weeks ahead of time and study the area. You have snipers covering the area, and the moment a window goes up, you re on the radio. None of that was in place for Dallas."

It was in 1967 that Prouty discovered one of the most explosive proofs of CIA involvement, buried within a series of six photos snapped within minutes of the assassination. The infamous photos show three 'tramps' arrested behind the grassy knoll being marching through Dealey Plaza by two uniformed officers. The three men remain a mystery-no arrest records were made and no names were taken. For years it was speculated that two were CIA agents E. Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis, who would later gain notoriety for their part in the Watergate break in.

"What caught my eye right away was the fact that some other person is in the first photo walking in the opposite direction." says Prouty, singling out one particular shot. "Here he is, during one of the most important events in our history, casually walking past two police with guns and the tramps, not even looking at what could've been the killers of the President. This is all within 30 minutes or less after the assassination. It's unbelievable. And note that these tramps have not been handcuffed either, and a civilian is allowed to walk within inches of them."

Then Prouty looked even more closely at the photo. "I was stunned to realize that this unconcerned bystander was none other than my long-time friend and associate Ed Lansdale."

"Right away, since he was there, I just knew that he must be concerned with the cover story. That was his gifthis specialty."

Gen. Edward G. Lansdale was a celebrated CIA man who masterminded various assassination plots for the CIA and was heavily involved in Vietnam. He was CIA, but worked under the cover of an air force colonel. He and Prouty had worked closely together for several years before his resignation ("a paper resignation to comply with his CIA 'cover' assignment") in October 1963. At the time of the assassination, Lansdale was supposed to be visiting his son in San Antonio, but a claim check found in his personal papers places him at a hotel used by the presidential entourage the night before the assassination.

"I personally have no doubt that the photo is of Lansdale," affirms Prouty. "I knew him from 1952 in the Philippines to the time of his death. He was one of my neighbors."

Prouty sent copies of the photos to a friend - another high-ranking Kennedy-era officer who also knew Lansdale.

"The two policemen are carrying shotguns, not rifles," the friend wrote back. "Their caps are different (one a white chinstrap, one black). One has a Dallas Police shoulder patch, one does not, and their caps differ from that of another police officer in photo four. Reasonable conclusion -- they are either reservists or phoneys. And as you know, city cops don't have anything to do with sheriff's offices."

"And as to photo No. 1 - That is a picture of Ed Lansdale! The haircut, the stoop, the twisted left hand, the large class ring. It's Lansdale. What in the world was he doing there? Has anyone asked him?"

Prouty says he wasn't surprised when he realized Lansdale was in Dallas for the assassination -- he was there to make sure nothing went wrong.

"He was there like the orchestra leader, coordinating these things." Prouty says Lansdale "He's a 'producer' and the best one there was."

"He worked for years to overthrow the president of the Philippines - he did it almost all by himself."

That's not the only bombshell Prouty dropped over the course of numerous meetings and conversations in Washington. Look closely at the famous Zapruder film of the assassination, and standing alongside the motorcade on Elm Street is an unidentified man holding up an open, black umbrella, even though the weather is sunny and warm. He is standing in front and to the right of Kennedy's car at the moment Kennedy was struck in the throat. Prouty asserts that was no ordinary umbrella, and again finds evidence of Lansdale.

Prouty remembers Lansdale introducing him to a man in 1961 or '62 who had invented a new weapon ideal for clandestine operations: silent rocket-propelled darts, only a few centimeters long and fired from a tube no longer than a milk shake straw. After an impressive demonstration in which the man imbedded a dart in Prouty's office wall, Prouty arranged for research money. Within months, the CIA had adapted the device for many uses - including hiding it in an umbrella.

"When the umbrella was closed, nothing showed. When it was open, the bearer would hold it over his head and on the center rod of the umbrella there was a small wire-like piece that was his end of the sighting mechanism, as he sighted toward the object with one umbrella rib-tip directly in line. The nylon dart - just one - was located in a small tube that was aligned with the sighting mechanism."

Prouty says he never thought of the weapon again until shortly after the assassination. "I knew the rules of Presidential protection and I knew that no one along the parade route was ever permitted to open an umbrella as the President's car went by. They let that happen. Why this omission? Why that umbrella? And when you watch the Zapruder film, you can see the man slowly rotating the umbrella as he lines up his shot as the car approaches."

This corroborates the medical findings of Dr. Charles Crenshaw, who worked to save JFK's life in Trauma Room One at Parkland Hospital. "The throat wound in the president was a very small wound of entry -- three to five millimeters," says Crenshaw, who is now director and chairman of the surgery department at Tarrant County Hospital District.

"Intimidation, fear and career mindedness," is what Crenshaw admits were his reasons for not refuting the all shots from-behind story Kennedy's wounds. ''Back then, it became quite obvious very fast that something funny was going on. I was very fearful in the first few years. So I never said anything. But now it's in the open, I don't fear anything. Kennedy's fatal gunshot wound is now believed to have come from in front, sending him hurtling beck and to his left at 100.3 feet per second. There was no doubt in my mind that the bullet that entered his head come from in front," Crenshaw concurs. "As it passed through he cranium, the high velocity missile obliterated part of the temporal and the parietal and occipital lobes before it lacerated the cerebellum."

"The whole right side of his head was shot off, and the back of his head was blown out."

As for the designated patsy, Oswald, Prouty confirms what has been suspected: Oswald was specially selected for the CIA, as one of between 3,000 and 5000 military personnel intended to give support to CIA operations. It was a program Prouty himself established in 1955.

"The Marines selected Oswald for this on merit," Prouty says. "Then he went to the CIA's military personnel offices. They had to approve of him and provide him with the necessary security clearances the FBI ran those check-ups."

"It proves that Oswald was a selected and valuable man in those days," explain Prouty "Neither the CIA, or the FBI can claim they did not know him. I had created that system with Larry Houston, the general Counsel of the CIA. It has worked for 40 years...give or take a North, Secord or Wilson."

But for Prouty; talking about Oswald misses the point, since he's not the man who shot JFK. Oswald was only the cover story designed to lead people away from what really happened.

'That's what you do in a coup d'etat: you try to lead people over here while you go over there," Prouty says, "JFK was killed by two or three professionals. Probably seven or eight bullets fired in all, if that many. And then the professionals just faded. Because when it's done by a hit team that are pros, you'll never know who they are. When they kill the President, there is a change of government and that is a coup d'etat and anybody involved will never be tried because the coup d'etat worked. "Anybody that doesn't realize that isn't using his head."


There is a wealth of information on this sight.

www.prouty.org...



[Edited on 27-10-2002 by quaneeri]




posted on Oct, 26 2002 @ 12:50 PM
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As to who was (General Y) in the JFK Film.

General E.G. ********

I have come to the conclusion this is (General Y).

General Edward G Lansdale.


Allen Dulles, Gen. Ed Lansdale, Gen. Charles P. Cabell, Mr. Nathan Twining.



posted on Oct, 27 2002 @ 01:55 AM
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Convenient Deaths

1963 - 1970

In the three year period following the assassination many witnesses died - mostly of unnatural causes. Many rumours crawling around about the high death rate during these years. They are supported by the mostly suspicious circumstances the victims died under. For a unknown shooter or even shooters, all these deaths have on thing in common: they are very convenient to those assassins since these witnesses took their knowledge with them into the grave. But see yourself and decide whether these deaths are purely coincidently:


Date Name Connection with case Cause of death

11/63 Karyn Kupicinet Tv host's daughter who was overheard telling of JFK's death prior to 11/22/63 Murdered

12/63 Jack Zangretti Expressed foreknowledge of Ruby shooting Oswald Gunshot Victim

2/64 Eddy Benavides Lookalike brother to Tippit shooting witness, Domingo Benavides Gunshot to head

2/64 Betty MacDonald* Former Ruby employee who alibied Warren Reynolds shooting suspect. Suicide byhanging in Dallas Jail

3/64 Bill Chesher Thought to have information linking Oswald and Ruby Heart attack

3/64 Hank Killam* Husband of Ruby employee, knew Oswald acquaintance Throat cut

4/64 Bill Hunter* Reporter who was in Ruby's apartment on 11/24/63 Accidental shooting by policeman

5/64 Gary Underhill* CIA agent who claimed Agency was involved Gunshot in head ruled suicide

5/64 Hugh Ward* Private investigator working with Guy Banister and David Ferrie Plane crash in Mexico

5/64 DeLesseps Morrison* New Orleans Mayor Passenger in Ward's plane

8/64 Teresa Norton* Ruby employee Fatally shot

6/64 Guy Banister* x-FBI agent in New Orleans connected to Ferrie, CIA, Carlos Marcello & Oswald Heart attack

9/64 Jim Koethe* Reporter who was in Ruby's apartment on 11/24/63 Blow to neck

9/64 C.D. Jackson "Life" magazine senior Vicepresident who bought Zapruderfilm and locked it away Unknown

10/64 Mary Pinchot JFK "special" friend whose diary was taken by CIA chief James Angleton after her death Murdered

1/65 Paul Mandal "Life" writer who told of JFK turning to rear when shot in throat Cancer

3/65 Tom Howard* Ruby's first lawyer, was in Ruby's apartment on 11/24/63 Heart attack

5/65 Maurice Gatlin* Pilot for Guy Banister Fatal fall

8/65 Mona B. Saenz* Texas Employment clerk who interviewed Oswald Hit by Dallas bus

?/65 David Goldstein Dallasite who helped FBI trace Oswald's pistol Natural causes

9/65 Rose Cheramie* Knew of assassination in advance, told of riding to Dallas with Cubans Hit/run victim

11/65 Dorothy Kilgallen* Columnist who had private interview with Ruby, pledged to "break" JFK case Drug overdose

11/65 Mrs. Earl Smith* Close friend to Dorothy Kilgallen, died two daysafter columnist, may have kept Kilgallen's notes Cause unknown

12/65 William Whaley* Cab driver who reportedly drove Oswald to Oak Cliff (The only Dallas taxi driver to die on duty) Motor collision

1966 Judge Joe Brown Presided over Ruby's trial Heart attack

1966 Karen "Little Lynn" Carlin* Ruby employee who last talked with Ruby before Oswald shooting Gunshot victim

1/66 Earlene Roberts Oswald's landlady Heart attack

2/66 Albert Bogard* Car salesman who said Oswald test drove new car Suicide

6/66 Capt. Frank Martin Dallas policeman who witnessed Oswald slaying, told Warren Commission "there's a lot to be said but probably be better if I don't say it" Sudden cancer
8/66 Lee Bowers Jr.* Witnessed men behind picket fence on Grassy Knoll Motor accident

9/66 Marilyn "Delila Walle* Ruby dancer Shot by husband after 1 month of marriage

10/66 Lt. William Pitzer* JFK autopsy photographer who described his duty as "horrifying experience" Gunshot rule suicided

11/66 Jimmy Levens Fort Worth nightclub owner who hired Ruby employees Natural causes

11/66 James Worrell Jr.* Saw man flee rear of Texas School Book Depository Motor accident

1966 Clarence Oliver Dist. Atty. Investigator who worked Ruby case Unknown

12/66 Hank Suydam Life magazine official in charge of JFK stories Heart attack

1967 Leonard Pullin Civilian Navy employee who helped film "Last Two Days" about assassination One-car crash

1/67 Jack Ruby* Oswald's slayer Lung cancer (he told family he was injected with cancer cells)

2/67 Harold Russell* Saw escape of Tippit killer killed by cop in bar brawl

2/67 David Ferrie* Acquaintance of Oswald, Garrison suspect and employee of Guy Banister Blow to neck (ruled accidental)

2/67 Eladio Del Valle* Anti-Castro Cuban associate of David Ferrie being sought by Garrison Gunshot wound, ax wound tohead

3/67 Dr. Mary Sherman* Ferrie associate working on cancer research Died in fire (possibly shot)

1/68 A. D. Bowie Asst. Dallas District Attorney prosecuting Ruby Cancer

4/68 Hiram Ingram Dallas Deputy Sheriff, close friend to Roger Craig Sudden cancer

5/68 Dr. Nicholas Chetta New Orleans coroner who on death of Ferrie Heart attack

8/68 Philip Geraci* Friend of Perry Russo, told of Oswald/Shaw conversation Electrocution

1/69 Henry Delaune* Brother-in-law to coroner Chetta Murdered

1/69 E.R. Walthers* Dallas Deputy Sheriff who was involved in Depository search, claimed to have found .45-cal. slug Shot by felon

1969 Charles Mentesana Filmed rifle other than Mannlicher-Carcano being taken from Depository Heart attack

4/69 Mary Bledsoe Neighbor to Oswald, also knew David Ferrie Natural causes

4/69 John Crawford* Close friend to both Ruby and Wesley Frazier, who gave ride to Oswald on 11/22/63 Crash of private plane

7/69 Rev. Clyde Johnson* Scheduled to testify about Clay Shaw/Oswald connection Fatally shot

1970 George McGann* Underworld figure connected to Ruby friends, wife, Beverly, took film in Dealey Plaza Murdered


www.jfk-assassination.de...



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 10:43 PM
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This is a most interesting read, OP. Thanks for this presentation. Even though it's now ten years later, a well deserved S&F.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 03:45 AM
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It's too bad more people did not read your thread.

I'm glad you mentioned Dr. Charles Crenshaw who was the first doctor to see JFK after he was shot.
His book, "Conspiracy of Silence" (re-titled "Trauma Room One") came out in 1992, and served as the most convincing evidence that there was a conspiracy to murder JFK.

According to Crenshaw, JFK was clearly shot from two different directions. The kill shot came from the front.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 10:33 AM
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Yes, JFK was clearly shot from two different directions and the recoil ballistics actually shows up in the Zapruder Film under close examination.

LHO was more trying to become the hero that stopped the effort to kill JFK, but the FBI was so corrupt even he could not stop it. LHO was more the classic over achiever that sought to penetrate the corrupt elements in the US working the Cuba affairs and he traced that back to HL Hunt in Dallas and PERMINDEX's Foreign Interests. If LHO got the chance to tell all that then, Hoover and LBJ would have gotten the firing squad, and the Dallas gang would likely have gotten the same fate. They had to silence LHO using the corrupt Jack Ruby, who was allied with Zionist games involved. The leverage used to get Ruby kill LHO was if the truth be known, there would be pogroms against Jews---aka Israel.

Prouty gets down to most of the CIA and Hoover and LBJ, who were the top cover up artists in the US. But Prouty appears to not take adequate notice the the real sociopathic drive to kill JFK in Dallas stemming from HL Hunt and his very close alliances with the PERMINDEX group, which was the rebuilt version of the NAZI NW7 and the killing unit for the Bilderbergs, who were really behind the Mil/Ind Network and the anti-Communist movement in the US.

Allen Dulles was behind getting all the NAZIs into the US and these were the highly Fascist NAZI sociopaths that worked close with IG Farben, which was resurrected to become the Global Corportate model for the Bilderbergs efferts for their NWO.

HL Hunt was indeed the main drive behind the killing JFK plan and the Foreign Interests PERMINDEX group was long allied with the CIA via Allen Dulles. HL Hunt was Pro-NAZI, tied to PERMINDEX along with Ferenc Nagy in Dallas and Jean DeMenil in Houston. HL Hunt and Clint Merchinson in Dallas had both Hoover and LBJ in their back pocket. Hoover planted the head of PERMINDEX and an organization called DISC to oversee the NAZIs in Huntsville and that name was Louis Bloomfield, who hated JFK with a passion over JFK's resistance against Ben Gurion and the Israeli Bomb.

Add those elements of thought to the Prouty theme and you get to the real issues behind the motives to have JFK executed in public and get away with the massive cover up of who all were involved to the highest levels of US Govt. cooperating with Evil Foreign Elements after a NWO.

Get a good deeper look:
www.doewatch.com...

edit on 23-2-2012 by MagnumOpus because: Wholesale corruption of the US over the cover up of the JFK hit



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 05:40 PM
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Thanks for the link. Very interesting info. By LHO do you mean HLO (Harvey Lee Oswald)? Is that just a typo or am I missing a pivotal character in this story?

I don't have time right now to read everything on that link, but I will definitely get back to it.

This thread deserves more attention.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 06:34 PM
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I think the given name for "LHO" is "Lee Harvey Oswald" and in that order:

en.wikipedia.org...


So most just do the abbreviation as LHO. People that knew him appeared to just call him Lee, or by his first name.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 08:24 PM
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I was taking a class in college in Mass Communications. It was an elective my friends wanted to all take and since I was in science classes and they were in business, it was my one of few chances. The first few classes the professor, who graduated from Chicago U. and I beleive he was very liberal, had picked out two men in our 200 person class, called them by name, declared them to be CIA agents posing as students, ordered them to leave and not come back. The class of course was astounded.

So it turned out, this prof was up to SOMETHING and it was big. He had a copy on loan from Kodak of the Zapruder, JFK assassination film. Well, he had our attention with all the drama, even though we had no real clue what he was doing. But, I can promise you that no one missed class when he showed this film. We watched it for two 50 minute sessions in slow motion like watching a football film in a locker room full of coaches. Stop action, slo mo, etc. We all came to the same conclusion but how could we not? The only logical explanation for what I witnessed in that set of film sessions was JFK definitely got caught in a crossfire and the death shot DID come from the 'grassy knoll'. We debated various concepts about who but not very much could undo seeing slo mo of a bullet moving from behind a fence on the grassy knoll as it hits Kennedy. It was like it ripped a whole in the canvas screen.

Later, when I found out about and read Jim Garrison, the former DA of New Orleans' book "The JFK Assassination" that O Stone later made a movie of, it was totally obvious at how the involvement of the Feds to hinder the DA's investigation popped up to coincide/calaborate the crappy Warren Commisions version of the study. I certainly saw the movie with what I know and thought that Stone did the book justice. That book was the handwritting on the wall for me, It HAD to be a coup. So who does have the ability to keep this held out of public perception when so many want to know the truth, besides the well known Watergate crowd? The very ones who appear to be in the photo's in Dealey Plaza that fateful day in 63? E Howard Hunt's confession becomes the final nail to the lie perpetuated on the people of the USA. At least for me.
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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by MagnumOpus
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I think the given name for "LHO" is "Lee Harvey Oswald" and in that order:

en.wikipedia.org...


So most just do the abbreviation as LHO. People that knew him appeared to just call him Lee, or by his first name.


My apologies, MagnumOpus, my embarrassing brain fart. You're right.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by Justoneman
I was taking a class in college in Mass Communications. It was an elective my friends wanted to all take and since I was in science classes and they were in business, it was my one of few chances. The first few classes the professor, who graduated from Chicago U. and I beleive he was very liberal, had picked out two men in our 200 person class, called them by name, declared them to be CIA agents posing as students, ordered them to leave and not come back. The class of course was astounded.

So it turned out, this prof was up to SOMETHING and it was big. He had a copy on loan from Kodak of the Zapruder, JFK assassination film. Well, he had our attention with all the drama, even though we had no real clue what he was doing. But, I can promise you that no one missed class when he showed this film. We watched it for two 50 minute sessions in slow motion like watching a football film in a locker room full of coaches. Stop action, slo mo, etc. We all came to the same conclusion but how could we not? The only logical explanation for what I witnessed in that set of film sessions was JFK definitely got caught in a crossfire and the death shot DID come from the 'grassy knoll'. We debated various concepts about who but not very much could undo seeing slo mo of a bullet moving from behind a fence on the grassy knoll as it hits Kennedy. It was like it ripped a whole in the canvas screen.

Later, when I found out about and read Jim Garrison, the former DA of New Orleans' book "The JFK Assassination" that O Stone later made a movie of, it was totally obvious at how the involvement of the Feds to hinder the DA's investigation popped up to coincide/calaborate the crappy Warren Commisions version of the study. I certainly saw the movie with what I know and thought that Stone did the book justice. That book was the handwritting on the wall for me, It HAD to be a coup. So who does have the ability to keep this held out of public perception when so many want to know the truth, besides the well known Watergate crowd? The very ones who appear to be in the photo's in Dealey Plaza that fateful day in 63? E Howard Hunt's confession becomes the final nail to the lie perpetuated on the people of the USA. At least for me.


That's an amazing first-hand story. And I agree -- E. Howard Hunt's death bed confession should seal it for most reasonable people.

It just amazes me how some (otherwise intelligent, educated people) cling to the lone gunman official story.
I think they're terrified of having to face a government that is NOT benign, a government that lies to its people when it serves the government's purposes.

The same bunch that have no interest in UFOs because the government & the MSM will not confirm the reality of UFOs.
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posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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most interesting and believable telling of events of the JFK Assassination.

I mean this i a guys who does this stuff, helped invent and start up some of this stuff, telling us that he knows something else happened than what we were told,............

yet you will still have people believe the official story.

They really did accomplish making our country more dumb. Everybody just believe whatever is said by the person who says it first or the loudest. So in this day and age, whoever shouts the loudest must be correct.

That is why we never get the truth. Because 200,000,000 people already think they know everything about everything.


The plan is brilliant , and we don't even know all the details, not even close.

You just wish this kind of brilliance was put towards the bettering all of humanity and not just a few individuals who already have power.





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