I am issuing a challenge

sorry i didn't reply sooning, my name comes from Gundam Wing....Zechs Merquise. Anyway, i wasn't trying to insult. if i did i'm sorry. its just hard for me to believe that people really actually believe in this stuff. i believe stuff happens. i believe its either the works of God or the devil. nothing else. it either one or the other for me, no inner power. i could be wrong or i could be right. but until i experience it for myself i'm sticking with what i said. but i would like to learn more about this kind of stuff. just to understand it better. if you could help me out that would be great.

How much can you know about yourself if you've never been in a fight?
-Tyler Durton

What I meant about the pics was that the energy imprint of the person who developed them & others who may have touched the photo before it got to your drawer could be affected.

Unless you developed the picture yourself & no one else touched them except you before it got to your drawer, there could be some concern or no concern about harming someone other than yourself.

Just erring on the side of caution.

Teach them to put their spells where their mouth is!!!

I support you all the way!!

All those things they talk about are purely mental, it's purely a ruse to get you to be wary, and then when you trip and smash your head on a locker and crack your skull, they can say they did that.

People should be specific about what they will do. That will be the true test.

I knew it sounded familiar! Geez... know that I remember, I feel like an idiot having NOT remembered! No offensive taken (never even considered your posts to be offensive). Anything you want to know, if I can answer, I will... if I can't I'm certian there are a couple others here who could...

Questor- okay, I know what you mean now... (similiar to others holding Tarot cards); haven't even thought of it in that way... but I would assume that nothing could happen; the "challenger" is focusing on the image... now, if they had the actual photograph, that might be something different. (But I want you to know, I do understand what your saying).

Good intentions, I'll give you that... but I think a 7 hour spell would consist more of just a headache.

As with anything, a person would... "know"... if it was an accident, or something else... but I am planning on typing anything that happens.

How long does one have to wait for a 7 hour perpared spell?

I guess only time will tell... still have my doubts, though...

[Edited on 23-10-2003 by soothsayer]

So far, as I can tell, nothing has happened since the last posting. Maybe solar flares have interferred?

wow...keep us posted, i wouldn't have waged my chances on doing this, i value my life
but hey, im glad some1's up on the challenge, we can see what the end result is...
oh, and btw...what happens if u die?? (just a thought)

I've given up.
Sooth, did you lose your keys at any point in the past couple of weeks? That's what I was aiming for.
If not, doesn't disprove anything or prove anything except that I can't do it, at the moment.

So nobody has managed to hurt, maim, or kill soothsayer yet, right?

Originally posted by Questor
What I meant about the pics was that the energy imprint of the person who developed them & others who may have touched the photo before it got to your drawer could be affected.

Unless you developed the picture yourself & no one else touched them except you before it got to your drawer, there could be some concern or no concern about harming someone other than yourself.

Just erring on the side of caution.

I find this hard to swallow. I don't undertand why handling the picture prior to this challenge could cause anyone else harm. What if it were a digital picture from the onset? Does that mean that we are all in danger because we have all "handled" it. I don't think so.

BTW,
This is just my $0.02. I am not trying to be rude to you. I am just trying to understand the reasoning.

Dany- don't worry, distance might have been a factor (nope, no keys lost... I keep them in the van's ignition)

Heelstone- still alive! But I wonder why? Surely those who practice the Necronomican would have taken insult to my blatant challenge!

Azls1- It is a matter of energy absorbtion... almost like thermal residue. Anyone handling a picture would leave a psycic imprint, or energy signature; so, if anyone was trying to target me by energy might in fact be targeting someone else. But you're right... a digital photograph wouldn't have that trace.

soothsayer- you want me to give it a shot? I'm no psychic but i got pretty good visualization powers. I'll give you a bad headache or a parking ticket or something. Gimmie like a month, is that fine?

EDIT- After reading this thread I take it back. It would be stupid to get myself in trouble for doing party tricks.

edit2- I am tempted but I figure I should work on my own spirtual development before messing with other people. We all have a lot to learn and its better spent in comtemplation.

KTPRKTPR-
1. There isn't a time limit, so sure, a month is good.
2. Edit 1 response- ? I think I understand...
3. Edit 2 response- No problem, that I understand. It is a good thing to develope a sense of self (no matter what it entails), before delving into something else.

theBandit795-
That has to be the best explaination of magic (at least in this form (of energy manipulation)) I've heard... it makes a lot more sense than my "imagination/willpower manifesting in form". I know it sounds alot like "the Force"... but it WORKS.

hmm.....ok what do you guys mean when your talking about energy and transfering it and everything. like the picture...there was discussion about if other peoples energy was going to be in the picture you post. what is it? how does it work? why do you think we all have an energy?

Where there's a will, there's a way.
-Unknown

[Edited on 27-10-2003 by Zechs]

The best way I can explain it is like this (bare with me)-

Every living thing has an energy field around it. The most common description would be an "aura"...
AURA- Inoccultism, a luminous appearance seen surrounding the human body; the radiation has been called Od, Odyle, or Odic Force. (Encyclopedia of the Supernatural, volume 2, 1970). There is a method of photographing the energy field around an object to determine health status (but I can't recall what it is right now). An aura is person specific; the color, pattern, shape and size depends on the individual... this is the psycic energy that people like myself use (if you can manipulate someone's energy, you can, in essence, manipulate them).

A good example of radiating energy and people is thermal energy. We've all seen the movies, television shows, and whatever that utilizes this... using a thermal camera, we can see someone standing behind a concrete wall, just by the heat he is giving off. In the movie "Predator", the hunter uses thermal imaging at one point (the multi-colored view). Soldiers and fire-fighters are able to track somebody by the heat of their footprints... they can tell how recently someone left by a color; on a nice, cold night, take your shoes and socks off outside, and quickly step on concrete... see the mark your foot left? That isn't the same as thermal, but it's close. Or (even better), hold your hand against a cold glass window... you'll see a mist along your hand on the window... remove your hand, the mist slowly goes away. These two examples deminstrate residual thermal energy.

The same can be said for psycic energy... Handling an object places an amount of energy equal to the time handling. Because this energy is more... (how do I say this?)... okay... You're putting little psycic thumbprints on the object... the more you tough, the more you leave behind, right? If more people handle the object, there'd be more psycic thumbprints...

So now, if an attacker (or for example, forensics officer) study-ies the object, he'll pull off these "thumbprints"... in a court of law, the wrong thumbprints could get someone arrested... if you're a magic-user, using the wrong "thumbprints" could hurt the wrong person.

Hope that helps explain what psycic energy is and what it means to the photographs... as for the manipulation of energy... without going inot too much detail... you know how you can change body heat? And you know how strong emotional fluxes also affects body heat and mental status? It is easy to change yourself (in this sense)... but to change/manipulate another... that is a different post...

Originally posted by soothsayer
There is a method of photographing the energy field around an object to determine health status (but I can't recall what it is right now).

It'sKirlian photography. There are examples of amputees feeling missing limbs long after they are gone. Kirlian photography reveals a luminous outline of the missing limb/digit. There is something to aura's. I am able to see faint "colors" around a person if I focus just right. I don't always know how to interpret these fields, but they do exist.

Thanks, darklanser! I've always liked that photo style, but for some reason, I can never remember the name.

I can't see aura's (at least, not the colors of)... but what I can do is "sense" the pattern of them.

*sniff* No takers yet... and I thought for sure that some-one would have sent or done something on Halloween. Oh well; I probably would not have known, anyway... was at a King Diamond concert... here it is, Sunday, and my ears are still ringing! (you'd think I'd have learned when I went to see Iron Maiden, but noooooo)

Hey Sooth do you ever play the lottery?

I could remotely add psychic energy signatures to attract the correct numbers to that tube that sucks balls.

Usually don't play lottery, unless the jackpot is at least 10 million...

Do play scratch-offs, though... for those, I'll usually when $50 bucks... but I only win when I need the money (car repairs, groceries, whatever...). If I'm greedy and play, I lose. Isn't karma great?