To My Feature Length Reply. Tit for Tat?
posted by zappafan1
Hello, Donwhite. I provide the following:
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from
the public treasure . . the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship." The above describes what I
said about Welfare, WIC, Medicare, et-al, and are examples of the Marxism currently happening here. The average age of the world's great
civilizations has been two hundred years . . [Edited by Don W]
Are you quoting Socrates again, Z-Fan1? Look, aside from the fact the “200 years” thing is made up out of whole cloth, it has turned out the other
economic forecast is wrong, too. Even Alan Greenspan never claimed to see beyond tomorrow. Now, as to Medicare, about 18% of US health care money is
spent through Medicare. I’m on Medicare. Did you know I pay $88 a month to the US for Part B? Plus $29 a month for Part D? That I paid 1.45% of my
wages during my working life for a pre-paid Part A policy? Matched by my employer or I pay 2.9% if self employed. It’s not entirely free. Oh, and I
pay $180 a month for a Plan F Medicare supplement, too, to BC-BS. As a percent of income I’ll bet I pay more for health care than most people
posting here. But I’m glad to have it and I thank LBJ for it. Before Medicare, old people just died. RIP.
WIC. Women, Infants and Children. The best, most cost effective program in the US arsenal against poverty and its debilitating consequences. WIC,
another LBJ program, has as its mission the providing of high protein foods to pregnant women, newborns and children up to age 6. We know any child
deprived of a good balanced diet will suffer brain injury or retarded development. For a few bucks spent early on, the child has a better chance to be
a tax paying citizen. And etc. To oppose WIC is truly to shoot yourself in the ideologue's foot.
These nations have progressed through the following sequence:
8: from apathy to dependency,
9: from dependency back to bondage."
Thanks to the Left, America is currently at number 8. While I again agree with some of what you mentioned, current population numbers show that
getting rid of the Electoral College would allow the major population centers to negate the votes of most of the country, and bring us evermore closer
to what is in the first paragraph . .
Wait up, Z-Fan1. Isn’t “most of the country” you are speaking about just vacant land, as in Wyoming, Nevada, Utah, or South Dakota? Or Alaska?
Are you suggesting Seattle’s 3 million people should have no more voting power than say Juneau. What if we said, OK, but Seattle will pay only the
same taxes as Juneau. The country would not work. Trivia: Did you know Juneau is the largest city in America? See below.
One only has to see what has happened thanks to Liberal Socialist Marxist principles already in effect: The ruination of the black family
I thought 256 years of slavery, followed by 78 years of legal Jim Crow peonage, followed by 52 years of primarily GOP denial - not a river in Egypt
[joke] - was the primary cause of the “ruination” of the black family. Oh, Z-Fan1, to what do you attribute the “ruination” of the white
family? Divorces are now running 55% in 5 years of marriage. 25% of white babies are born out of wedlock. What’s up, here, Z-Fan1?
The power to tax was instituted by way of Amendment, although the amendment was never ratified by enough states for it to pass, the way it was first
introduced written; the IRS has been a criminal activity ever since, which is why they have their own court. [Edited by Don W]
Z-Fan1, it’s no military secret. The 16th Amendment was passed by Congress - 2/3rds vote in the House and Senate - on July 12, 1909. It was declared
adopted on Feb. 23, 1913, by the Secretary of State. After the fact, the amendment was ratified by MA and NH. This silly crapoola about the 16th
Amendment not being legal comes about for this reason: Ohio ratified it in 1911, and West Virgilia ratified in 1913. Both states were counted in the
Then, in 1953 it was discovered that the paperwork for Ohio’s 1803 admission into the Union was not signed. Further, the 1863 admission into the
Union of West ‘By God’ Virginia - the 27 counties in the far west and north of Virginia - is not in conformity with the Con. Article 4, Section
3, Clause 1, which says “no state may be formed out of another state without the consent of both state legislatures.”
The Courts have said the oversight in Ohio was long since “corrected by usage” and in 1863, Virginia was in rebellion and could not object. No
case. Forget it, Z-Fan1. The IRS is legal and violators of the tax laws can find themselves in the pen.
Juneau area, 2,717 sq. miles.
[edit on 6/23/2006 by donwhite]