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Originally posted by marg6043
I wonder what in the Heck was Cheney discussion of business was about in the Ranch that belong to Katharine Armstrong another white house lobbyists and close friend with the Bush family and involve in Bush business deals.
Her business is raising money for the Republican party, lobbyist and lawyer.
I wonder.
Originally posted by Boatphone
Who cares what they were talking about! They are friends, friends talk to each other...
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What if the real story were that Cheney shot Whittington as a consequence of some argument, the topic of which neither man wants disclosed?
Originally posted by marg6043
I wonder what in the Heck was Cheney discussion of business was about in the Ranch that belong to Katharine Armstrong another white house lobbyists and close friend with the Bush family and involve in Bush business deals.
"Accident my eye. Or rather, Harry Whittington's eye. If you believe it was just an accident that Vice President Dick Cheney shot his hunting companion last weekend, you obviously have never seen 'The Godfather' movies. Just as surely as a fish wrapped in a bulletproof vest means 'Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes,' that shotgun blast to Whittington's face was meant to convey that 'Scooter' Libby had better bite his tongue and forget about testifying against Cheney, his former boss, in the Valerie Plame spy case. What'll it be, Scooter: a case of amnesia or lead poisoning? The woman who owns the ranch on which the shooting occurred said Whittington shot a bird, went to retrieve it and then snuck up on Cheney.
"The vice president, she said, was shooting at a covey of quail when he hit the tall, orange-vest-wearing lawyer. Libby, Cheney's former chief of staff, recently told a grand jury that leaking Plame's identity as a spy was authorized by his superiors who were angered by Plame's husband's public criticism of the war in Iraq. That revelation had many questioning how low this administration would go to quash dissent. Now we know. 'A vice president who'll shoot an ally to get across his message of omerta -- that's mobspeak for "hush up" -- may be considered a national disgrace by some.'"
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Revealed: the terror prison US is helping build in Morocco
The Sunday Times February 12, 2006
THE United States is helping Morocco to build a new interrogation and detention facility for Al-Qaeda suspects near its capital, Rabat, according to western intelligence sources.
The sources confirmed last week that building was under way at Ain Aouda, above a wooded gorge south of Rabat’s diplomatic district. Locals said they had often seen American vehicles with diplomatic plates in the area.
The construction of the new compound, run by the Direction de la Securité du Territoire (DST), the Moroccan secret police, adds to a substantial body of evidence that Morocco is one of America’s principal partners in the secret “rendition” programme in which the CIA flies prisoners to third countries for interrogation.
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A recent inquiry into rendition by the Council of Europe, led by Dick Marty, the Swiss MP, highlighted a pattern of flights between Washington, Guantanamo Bay and Rabat’s military airport at Sale.
Harry served on both the Texas Board of Corrections and on the bonding authority that builds prisons. As he has often said, prisons do not curb crime, they are hothouses for crime: "Prisons are to crime what greenhouses are to plants."
Whittington was the chairman of Texas Public Finance Authority, he had a devastating set of numbers on the demand for more, more, more prison beds. As Whittington was wont to point out, the only thing prisons are good for is segregating violent people from the rest of society, and most of them belong in psychiatric hospitals to begin with. The severity of sentences has no effect on crime.
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Cheney could face jailtime if convicted of neglagence.
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
Now Delays gone.
Originally posted by Regenmacher
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As Cheney Victim Suffers Heart Attack, Questions Raised About Secrecy and Cronyism
....ust another indicator of this Republican elite, you know, political elite that exists here in Texas, and hunting is what they do when they want to get together."
.... "the other part that really is amazing here is just how small the world of Dick Cheney and Baker Botts and Halliburton is. Baker Botts is a very powerful Texas law firm. James A. Baker III is Of Counsel to the firm. It was founded by his great-grandfather. Baker Botts represents Halliburton. Baker Botts’s lawyer William Jeffress also represents “Scooter” Libby in the criminal charges in Plamegate scandal. Baker Botts is, you know, perhaps the law firm with the closest ties to the Bush administration, and here is Katharine Armstrong hosting Cheney and having lobbied the White House directly on behalf of Baker Botts. The part that’s the most, I think, is the most stunning is Armstrong nor Baker Botts will disclose for whom she was lobbying the White House for Baker Botts."
....there's another connection that exists even today with Halliburton on the Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, and that is that Ray Hunt, who is another -- has close ties to the Bush White House, is also on the -- sits on the board of Halliburton and sits on the Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board simultaneously, which was the case that Anne Armstrong had for many years. She sat on both the PFIAB and the Halliburton board at the same time.
Originally posted by Regenmacher
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Originally posted by HarlemHottie
To people who know something about hunting:
How many rounds do you have to fire at 30-35 ft. (about 7 car lengths, I think) [I misspoke, it was 30 yards.] to hit somebody with damn near 200 pellets, or whatever?
Originally posted by HarlemHottie
How many rounds do you have to fire at 30-35 ft. (about 7 car lengths, I think) [I misspoke, it was 30 yards.] to hit somebody with damn near 200 pellets, or whatever?
Standard pattern density for a 28 gauge shotgun would likely be about 40% of the pellets inside a 30 inch diameter circle at 40 yards for a cylinder bore choke and 50% inside the same 30 inch circle at 40 yards for an improved cylinder choke.
Dick Cheney came within a few inches of blowing Whittington's head off, because the pattern at 5 or 10 yards would only be 10 or 20 inches across. The center of the pattern at 5 yards would be 4 inches across and the edges a donut another three inches across; at 10 yards the center would be 8 inches across and the edges another 6 inches.
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