US Air Strike Kills Iraqi Family of 12, page 10

Originally posted by Souljah
OK - let ME Break it down for You:

1) Three Men are seeing Digging by an UAV. Nobody said 110% that they were installing an IED or planting a Landmine. Therefore, that is a SUSPECION that these 3 People were Insurgents A.K.A. Terrorists. Maybe they were Construction workers - did the US Marines Core check with the local authorities if there is any Construction going on?

So before any action is taken to investigate they need to alert the local authorities, get premission, get a translator, get a local officer of the law THEN go and see what there up to?

2) WRONG. The Report say, that the three men were tracked to a building, meaning that they did NOT Run away to the Building, but were only Tracked to it - that means that they Walked to the House. Again, what you said is a SUSPECION, that these 3 Men were actually Insurgents and not some Workers.

Since when does "tracked" men not runing?
Does the report state what MPH or KMPH they where traveling?

3) You have Said this Statement Correctly: MAY HAVE BEEN INSURGENTS. So, what do you do, in a may have been Scenario? Come on, you're an Ex Soldier - what would YOU do?

NONE of these 3 Points you made are not PROOF that these 3 Men were actually Insurgents, or as you prefer Terrorists. So, what gives the RIGHT to the US Military Forces to Label that house as an Insurgent Stronghold, where there are several Well Armed Enemy Combatants, ready to Engage the US Forces with all they got, including a planeted IED by the Road, so that they BETTER Armed Marines, have to call AIR SUPPORT to level this House and Eliminate the Problem by Eliminating the People? Isn't that the Stalinistic Way to solver Problem; No People, No Problem?

So because they "may" have been a threat that means we should not act, then in retrospect what we did on 7/7 was correct and we should have LET them kill those people yes no?

There was NO Mention of an Minefield, and the IED is also only a Possibility that you would love it to be True.

And there is no mention NOT of a minefield ethier, the IED is a possibility, or do you not take them into account?

This Event is a Perfect Example of the Ammount of Care to the local Iraqi Population, that the US Armed Forces have in this War. The Urban Warfare is no longer a House to House Combat, where the Infantry play a Leading Role. Problems are Solved via Command Screens, when the Marines use a Laser Deisgnator to Illuminate the Suspected Enemy Stronghold (in this case a Hose with 12 Family members, including 3 Women and 3 Boys younger then 10 in their Jammies) and call to their Air Support; probably a Marines F/A-18, with Laser Guided DU Bomb, who also only sees the Enemy as a little dot on his Head Up Display, and when the onboard Targetting computer says Fire, he presses the trigger and his Job is done. He never saw the Faces of his Target and he never will. And those Marines also.

So let me get this striahgt, your complaining about american tactics but kidnapping and head chopping is an ok?
Or the other insurgent warcrimes?
No lets focus on the marines "Tactics" and use hindsight to its fullest.
Mabye we should start with insurgent tactics on civilians which will have the highest fear inspiring ability but low tactical effectivenes.

That is the Video Game Approach to Solve this Problem.

No its called modern warfare.

America was engaged in an illusion that it was fighting, much as the mind engages with a video game, where the experience tricks the consciousness into believing it is an active participant in something that is not happening.

Oh here we go, blame it on video games now?

The US armed Forces did not want to Face the Real Problem of this Scenario and do some Face to Face combat with it - but instead they used what they know BEST: a Simulation, just like in the Computer Game.

How would you know? Eh? Your not there , you only read reports in a nice far away place where war once was, you read reports by biased reporters.

That is, as Gazrok has said eariler, as if the LAPD dropped a Hand Granade through the Window of Suspected Criminals somewhere in downtown LA. How would that make you feel, as a Civilan living in Los Angeles?

Well if your out, at nite, digging around an aera which they believe has mines in it , what they hell do you expect them to think?
Oh mabye its NOT mines, mabye its NOT IED's , maybye its 4 men digging at night?

Would you LIKE that Police?

[edit on 7/1/06 by Souljah]

Would you like police that cut off your head if you backchat them or critisise them?