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# Dec 25 fact or fiction and now the rest of the Story

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posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 11:09 PM
I would like to clear up two questions.

Is it possible to Square the Circle (360)?
And
Is Christmas the day God chose for us to celebrate Jesus Birthday (the actual birthday may be is different though)?

The answer to both questions is “Why yes it is.”

You must first know two things check them if you like!

1. Christmas is the 360th day of the year (Leap of faith Years)
2. Jesus name in Greek is Iesous and like Hebrew letters have a value a total of 888

Now I will give you two independent equations to verify the Squaring of the Circle

3 x 296 = 888
296 x 888 = 296^2 + 296^2 + 296^2
A number times Jesus' number is the sum of squares of itself in the form of a trinity

The following is Squaring the Circle theological not mathematical
(Christmas on Leap Year the 360th day)

360^2 x 1 = 129600 (12) day
360^2 x 2 = 259200 (25) month
360^2 x 3 = 388800
360^2 x 4 = 518400
360^2 x 5 = 648000
360^2 x 6 = 777600

at first you see a cross made up of 2 888’s with a 9 at the top the 9 is remnant of the last (as in digit as in Jesus)
One might think an 8 would be more concrete proof. Jesus can help us with that we know He is the first and the last
360^2 x 2 = 259200

25 9 200 divide the first into the last 200/25 is 8

you may say that this is a nice random pattern and means nothing again Jesus can help us with this.
I am in the father and he is in me the first number has quite an interesting property
129600 a 296 in a 100 (% if you like to think of it that way)
That takes us to the two Equations above.
But a code must have a final verification so looking to the last number one may think
ah 777 just lucky … no but God loves Irony as in a stalemate irony lessens the load.
Now we once took the first into the last now we take the last into the first

777 / 600 = 1,295 we use a comma to separate trinities of numbers so collect (add) the trinities

295
+ 1
-----
296

We end with what we started with ... well maybe a little more faith!

Greg

Additional Info should be verified for correctness!

JESUS ( IESOUS in Greek ) = 888
The New Testament of the Bible was originally
written in Greek. In the Greek alphabet
each of its letters has a numeric value
(like roman numerals).

Using the Greek spelling for Jesus
(Iesous (Strong's#2424)),
the numeric values of these Greek letters add up to:
.I . E . S .. O . U .. S. = JESUS
10 + 8 + 200 + 70 + 400 + 200 = 888
The New Testament contains 27 books consisting of 21 epistles, four Gospels, a book of Acts, and the Book of Revelation. All 27 books were written in the Greek language
The Mystery of the Greek alphabet

The Greek alphabet was invented almost one thousand years before the birth of Christ. At the time it was invented, every one of the 24 letters in the Greek alphabet represented a number as well as a sound. The first eight letters represent units (the "0" power of "10"), the second eight letters represent tens, (the first power of "10"), the third eight letters represent hundreds, (the second power of "10").
The 8-8-8 structure of the table holding the letters of the Greek alphabet is directly related to the name "Jesus" which will be explained shortly. Since every name and word in the Greek language had a corresponding numerical value, words could be expressed as numbers and numbers could be expressed as words. This made the Greek alphabet a public cipher and immediately encouraged two numerical superstitions called ISOPSEPHIA and GEMATRIA. The total of all the numbers in the Greek alphabet is "3999."

posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 02:25 PM
wtf did you

just say?

posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 02:41 PM
I was told there wasn't going to be any math in this debate.

I don't know about squaring the circle but I had a crazy night at circle in the square a few years back. Let's just say that this jew was calling out jesus' name (and a few other names as well) for hours on end.

does your mathematical thingy only work using leap year, which doesn't come every year?

posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 03:31 PM

Originally posted by C0le
wtf did you

just say?

you took the words right out of my mouth.

I am not certain I quite understand what, exactly, it the point of this thread. But I'd like to say that Jesus or God did not choose December 25th to be anything. Man, the Catholic Church in particular made this day a holiday. The reason, well primarily because other "pagan" faiths celebrated Festivals at the time of the Winter Solstice. Also, it was part of a "deal", so to speak between Emperor Constantine to accept the Catholic Church as the official Church -- with some concessions of course; Sunday, for example, instead of the Sabbath to honor the pagan Sun God.

As far as all of that numerological stuff, whew, "it's waaaaay over my ]Originally posted by C0lehead" and, frankly, I'm glad.

posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 04:00 PM

Originally posted by Crakeur
I was told there wasn't going to be any math in this debate.

A jew who has lost his zest for numbers - oey vey

I don't know about squaring the circle but I had a crazy night at circle in the square a few years back. Let's just say that this jew was calling out jesus' name (and a few other names as well) for hours on end.

I'm sure He was saying "You Jew I Jew" you were just to busy to hear the reply.

What and where is circle in the square or is it an event

does your mathematical thingy only work using leap year, which doesn't come every year?

"mathematical thingy" I didn't really know what to call it do you mine if I use that.

but leap year is the only years when Christmas becomes the 360th day so on other years it is not a circle or 360.

As a Jew you should like this I mean do you think G_d just left clues for Christians.

Moses the first set of Mitzvot (commandments) was 10 the last set of Mitzvot was locked at 613 by G_d
put the first and last (alpha and omega) together...

Q: 10613 convert this number to base 25 (the Christmas base)
A: the answer is the number GOD

[edit on 29-11-2005 by Iesous]

posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 04:12 PM

Originally posted by benevolent tyrant

I am not certain I quite understand what, exactly, it the point of this thread. But I'd like to say that Jesus or God did not choose December 25th to be anything. Man, the Catholic Church in particular made this day a holiday. The reason, well primarily because other "pagan" faiths celebrated Festivals at the time of the Winter Solstice. Also, it was part of a "deal", so to speak between Emperor Constantine to accept the Catholic Church as the official Church -- with some concessions of course; Sunday, for example, instead of the Sabbath to honor the pagan Sun God.

As far as all of that numerological stuff, whew, "it's waaaaay over my ]Originally posted by C0lehead" and, frankly, I'm gad.

Actually this shows that everyting you said was the work of God.
And if it is waaayyy over you head why do you comment on something you don't understand. You speak for God and Jesus wow talk about a super ego. Here is a pin come back down to Earth it's cold here and we could use some hot air.

Joking aside if you take this to a college math department and ask them the odds of this occuring randomly kinda like someone who just won the lottery walking across a field getting struck by lighning on his birthday and surviving. Does this help you.
If you don't care don't respond but if this really bothers your sense of reality you will have no choice but to respond.

G

[edit on 29-11-2005 by Iesous]

posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 04:25 PM
iesous, I am going to bow out of this fast. I've checked the math and it scares me.

not only does 10613 converted to base 25 = GOD but, if you do it on thursday it means 2 for one drinks at circle in the square, which brings us back to do oh oh oh oh.

this jew hasn't lost his zest for numbers. I'm an accountant. that would be like a painter losing his eyes. I find comfort in numbers. Well, I did. Now they scare me.

posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 04:41 PM

Originally posted by Crakeur
iesous, I am going to bow out of this fast. I've checked the math and it scares me.

Don't be afraid I will tell you this Jews have cherished the number 13.
This is the number of the Bride (person) and Jesus respects the Jew for Keeping her number.

Count the zeros?!?

G_d Bless
my friend

L8er

Greg - find me in the congregation (tion is a cross on the Lion)
who came up with this calender thingie any way

Lil G

posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 11:56 PM
Mod Edit: to remove inappropriate comment.

[edit on 30-11-2005 by kinglizard]

posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 12:10 AM

Originally posted by Iesous

JESUS ( IESOUS in Greek ) = 888

Ahhhhh Gematria

Quick FYI
Christ (hristos in Greek) = 888

posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 12:26 AM
Okay, originally the Bible wasn't written at all, it was passed down verbally from generation to generation. Then it got written in Hebrew & translated to Greek.

I took Greek in High School, I should know. My Greek teacher was a scholar in Greek & Hebrew.

posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 01:18 AM

Originally posted by Cug

Originally posted by Iesous

JESUS ( IESOUS in Greek ) = 888

Ahhhhh Gematria

Quick FYI
Christ (hristos in Greek) = 888

really both names same value

It's more than Gematria

I was born 4-17-63
41763 base 17 is 888B
888 base 17 314
4171963
Sum of squares: a^2 + b^2 + c^2
a = 3
b = 1415
c = 1473
Total columns
5888

888b in bases 12-36 to decimal

888 888b
12: 1256 15083
13: 1464 19043
14: 1688 23643

15: 1928 28931
16: 2184 34955
17: 2456 41763

18: 2744 49403
19: 3048 57923

20: 3368 67371
21: 3704 77795
22: 4056 89243

23: 4424 101763
24: 4808 115403

25: 5208 130211
26: 5624 146235
27: 6056 163523

28: 6504 182123
29: 6968 202083

30: 7448 223451
31: 7944 246275
32: 8456 270603

33: 8984 296483
34: 9528 323963
35: 10088 353091
36: 10664 383915

Remember a tale about catching 153 fishes from the right side of the boat

lets use square root of 17
4.1231 a 4 and a 17 thats 4-17
lets see what happens when we break up Pi in 1 2 3 1
BTW 12-31 last day (of year)

3 14 159 3 add the 1 digit to the 2 digits
3+14 = 17 add those 2 to the next 3 digits
17+159=176 now from the 159 bring down the first and the last
31 4 159 3
.......4 176 3

back to Pi
3 14+15 93
in 3 of 93 someone born 41763 would be 14+15 or 29
1993 there was the storm of the century on those dates
only one other storm has that name it occured in 1888

1993 from base 14 to base 17 is the number g0d

1 4-17

Lookup Michael Molnars date for the Star of Bethlehem

just on other thing

4000001000007000001000009000006000003 is prime
take the day out of this number
1000007

Log 1000007 is 600000304 take the five zeros out of those numbers

17 6304

I'm not sayin' any more you do the math

Greg

posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 06:15 AM

Originally posted by SpartanLeonidas
Okay, originally the Bible wasn't written at all, it was passed down verbally from generation to generation. Then it got written in Hebrew & translated to Greek.

Are you talking about the part after i said

Additional Info should be verified for correctness!

Like you I can only pass along what has been passed along I don't seem to have any memories of that time do you?
I think of what I learned in school and what I learned in life I wish I could go back and tell them a thing or 3.
Oddly enough I met an old HS Chem teacher last Saturday can't wait to have a chat with him. My best friend and his daughter and me were a odd little group. I remember the first day in his class - a hydrogen experiment blew up he stood back and said that test tube must be glass I recomend you guys check to see that you use pyrex when you try it! He was great!

Greg

posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 07:36 AM
It's been proven that Jesus' birthday is NOT December 25.

That date is during the rainy season, and the shepherds wouldn't have had their sheep out during that time.

Furthermore, the shepherds and the wise men were not there at the same time. And there were more than three wise men. It was just that they gave three kinds of gifts (gold, frankincense, and myrrh). The wise men were inside the HOUSE where Jesus resided with His mother and stepfather, and they were there within two years of His birth. So those nativity scenes that are popular this time of year are pretty inaccurate.

December 25 is the birthday of Baal (Tammuz), who, interestingly enough, was more or less an antichrist "prototype" if you will.

Bottom line--Xmas is not a Christian holiday, but rather pagan. God never told us to observe the birth of Christ. The early Christians never did. Jeremiah 10:2-5 warns against it--that holiday was around since before Jesus' birth.

My husband and I don't observe it, and we're not going to be telling our son the Santa Claus lie.

Side note--I find it humorous and rather pathetic about ACLU wanting to ban Xmas and everything. Shows how much they know about Christianity--ZILCH!

posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 09:12 AM
numbers nerd

there, I said it.

peace.

posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Crakeur
numbers nerd

there, I said it.

peace.

No comment

bye and good luck in life

posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 01:46 PM

Originally posted by Amethyst
It's been proven that Jesus' birthday is NOT December 25.

There is no proof number 1
You did not read the very beginning of my post that I agree with you 2
and you are way to arogent to be a true christian

Bye as well

posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Iesous
and you are way to arogent to be a true christian

Bye as well

Say what, now? That statement makes it seem as though the only way to be a true Christian is to be sinless and without fault...But then if you're sinless and without fault, why would you need to put your faith in Christ thereby making you a Christian?

I also don't understand what Amethyst said that made her appear so arrogant to you...

posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 02:16 PM
Has it ever crossed your mind that if you play any numbers right you can get any answer that your heart desires? I'm sorry, but I just can't buy into this numerology stuff. It's almost as bad as astrology!

posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Amethyst
Furthermore, the shepherds and the wise men were not there at the same time. And there were more than three wise men. It was just that they gave three kinds of gifts (gold, frankincense, and myrrh). The wise men were inside the HOUSE where Jesus resided with His mother and stepfather, and they were there within two years of His birth. So those nativity scenes that are popular this time of year are pretty inaccurate.

Interesting. Do you have any sources for this information (if it's in the Bible, specific passages etc) - I always like to know where information comes from, otherwise it could just be poppycock, couldn't it.

Originally posted by Amethyst
December 25 is the birthday of Baal (Tammuz), who, interestingly enough, was more or less an antichrist "prototype" if you will.

Are Ba'al and Tammuz the same deities? There are several deities with the name Baal ("Lord").

I've also read that the Babylonian Tammuz has similarities with the Jesus story.

I see this particular Baal was the basis for Beelzebub - Is that what you mean by a "prototype" for the Anti-Christ?

Originally posted by Amethyst
Bottom line--Xmas is not a Christian holiday, but rather pagan.

As far as I can see, little of the Christ-mythology is original, and much of it owes a great deal to borrowings and assimilation of "pagan" (i.e. non-Abrahamic) religions and mythology.

What I find interesting, personally, is why previous deities are believed to be mythological, yet Jesus is believed to be real, despite much of his life and attributes being mirrored in these other deities that predate his story.

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