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reply posted on 30-11-2003 @ 10:25 PM by omega1
A key question about the Shadow Government is how does it make decisions and carry them out. Where is the center? Some think it lies in a few major financial institutions. Others that it lies in the intelligence apparatus. Still others that it has no permanent center, but operates by consensus, with shifting factions that confer through various mechanisms. Some think that those mechanisms are reflected in public associations such as the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Tri- lateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Federal Reserve, the World Bank, or the International Monetary Fund.<5>

That the key personalities in every major institution should associate and confer through various associations is not in itself a matter of concern, if all that was involved was the development of a consensus. But there is evidence that a centralized decisionmaking process exists, because too much is done that could not otherwise occur, and that the process is contemptuous of the Constitution and increasingly willing to violate it. That suggests a permanent apparatus, a bureaucracy, and that points to the intelligence and financial bureaucracies. Therefore, the real decisions may be made not by public figures, but by faceless persons operating in secret.

Most available evidence indicates that the center is in the intelligence apparatus, and that it largely controls all the other components of the system, including the financial. However, it also appears that the control is imperfect, subject to resistance if it tries to go too far.

It also appears that there are some distinct factions involved, the two major contenders being those more highly motivated persons concerned about meeting the challenges we face, the other being the more corrupt ones trying to expand their power and wealth. The alliance between these factions appears to be increasingly strained as growing corruption begins to impair the effectiveness of the institutions of society to meet the perceived challenges.

An analogy might be to a sinking ship, in which some want to build and equip lifeboats and others who want to make sure they are the ones who get to go in them. Each needs the other, for the time being, but the latter are beginning to threaten the production and seaworthiness of the lifeboats.

What we have is in many ways a classic oligarchy, with multiple components in an uneasy alliance with one another. No one individual is paramount, and anyone can be replaced if he gets too far out of line, by some combination of the others, each of whom derives his power from the institutions and assets under his influence.

Of course, the ones who get trampled under this regime are the ordinary people, who receive just enough under the deal to keep them quiet. The Powers That Be fear above all that the people might rise up and overthrow them, something that the people could still do if they could ever act in concert. Social control therefore becomes a matter of keeping them placated, divided, and misinformed.

Unfortunately for their scheme, they face the same problem the Roman Empire did. To keep the people placated, they are forced to pay them off, and meet increasing demands for such payoffs, while growth of the productive sector falters, or even shrinks relative to the population. Economic growth and the solutions to our social problems are being impaired by the depredations of the corrupt elements of the Shadow Government, who are concentrating assets in a way and at a rate that threaten the viability of the economy. The Romans solved the problem of keeping their citizens supplied with bread and circuses by predation of outlying provinces. Modern capitalist nations tried the same thing, but that imperial order is breaking down, and the only thing left is economic growth. If that growth falters, the welfare state fails, and with it the social stability on which the Established Order depends.


reply posted on 1-12-2003 @ 05:39 AM by ADVISOR
Very impressive, that will have to go into the thesis or final report. Keep up the awsome job lass!



Here is another link I recieved.

ASG

Has some of the same ole same ole, but does provide some other new and credited, well as credible as they get sources.

[Edited on 1-12-2003 by ADVISOR]


reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 02:02 PM by ADVISOR
Research update

Recently found this, read over it, and it is a must have for our sources.

Tassadar, since you are set on the "credibility" of our findings, could you please prioritize this one.

DC Watch

Here are some other rather interesting tid bts I found while yes, again conducting follow ups.

w3.access.gpo.gov...

firstgov.gov

For Tassadar:
Mentions Russian and Chinese, anticipated reactions if SEATO forces intervened in South Vietnam.

ref V-B-4 pp. 313-320

I am not sure if it pertains to the Vietnam aspect you covered, directly anyways...


reply posted on 7-12-2003 @ 10:53 PM by omega1
These are the sources of that link......

It all seems legit. So If you have the chance, check it out.

<1> See Reed & Cummings, Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA, 1994, Shapolsky Publishers Inc, 136 W 22nd St, New York, NY 10011, 212/633-2022. Also see Bartlett & Steele, America: What Went Wrong?, 1992, Andrews & McMeel, 4900 Main St, Kansas City, MO 64112; and Walter Karp, Liberty Under Siege, New York: Franklin Square, 1993.

<2> See Timothy Good, Above Top Secret: The Worldwide UFO Cover-up, New York: W. Morrow, 1988; Alien Contact: Top-Secret UFO Files Revealed, New York: W. Morrow, 1993.

<3> For a fairly comprehensive treatment of such views, see Albert Gore, Jr., Earth in the Balance, New York: Houghton-Mifflin, 1992. Also see Paul Ehrlich, Population/ Resources/ Environment, San Francisco: Freeman, 1972.

<4> For one treatment of American history that goes into this, see Clarence B. Carson, Basic American Government, 1993, American Textbook Committee, Route 1, Box 13, Wadley, AL 36276.

<5> There is abundant literature on this theme, most of it lacking hard evidence. An example is Gary H. Kah, Enroute to Global Occupation, 1992, Huntington House Publishers, POB 53788, Lafayette, LA 70505.

<6> One author has identified such public authorities as the Shadow Government, but it seems more likely that they are just a part of it. See Donald Axelrod, Shadow Government: the hidden world of public authorities and how they control $1 trillion dollars of your money, New York: Wiley, 1992.

<7> For a couple of sanitized depictions of this agency, see Loch K. Johnson, America's Secret Power: the CIA in a democratic society, New York: Oxford, 1989; Rhodri Jeffreys-Jones, The CIA and American Democracy, New Haven: Yale, 1989.

<8> This is discussed in a paper by Martin Cannon, The Controllers: A New Hypothesis of Alien Abductions, 1990, 8211 Owensmouth Av #206, Canoga Park, CA 91304. $6.00.

<9> This is documented in Collier & Collier, Votescam: the Stealing of America, 1992, Victoria House Press, 67 Wall St #2411, New York, NY 10005. $10.00.

<10> One discussion of this is William R. Tonso, The Gun Culture and its Enemies, 1990, Second Amendment Foundation, James Madison Building, 12500 N.E. Tenth Place, Bellevue, WA 98005.

<11> This is documented in a paper by Julianne McKinney, Microwave Harassment & Mind- Control Experimentation, Electronic Surveillance Project, Association of National Security Alumni, PO Box 13625, Silver Spring, MD 20911-3625, 301/608-0143. $5.00.

<12> For a general discussion of this, see Morgan Norval, The Militia in 20th Century America: A Symposium, 1985, Gun Owners Foundation, 5881 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church, VA 22041. Also see Stephen P. Halbrook, That Every Man Be Armed, 1984, Independent Institute, 134 98th Av, Oakland, CA 94603.

<13> For a comprehensive treatment of constitutional history and law, see Bernard Schwartz, The Roots of the Bill of Rights, New York: Chelsea House, 1980.

<14> The ways this might occur are discussed in Joseph A. Taintes, The Collapse of Complex Societies, New York: Cambridge, 1988.

<15> For some views on needed reforms, see Martin Gross, A Call for Revolution, New York: Ballantine, 1993.

www.constitution.org...


reply posted on 15-12-2003 @ 09:07 AM by infinite
The question of how and why the United Nations is the crux of the great conspiracy to destroy the sovereignty of the United States and the enslavement of the American people within a U.N. one-world dictatorship is a complete and unknown mystery to the vast majority of the American people. The reason for this unawareness of the frightening danger to our country and to the entire free world is simple. The masterminds behind this great conspiracy have absolute control of all of our mass communications media, especially television, the radio, the press, and Hollywood. We all know that our State Department, the Pentagon, and the White House have brazenly proclaimed that they have the right and the power to manage the news, to tell us not the truth but what they want us to believe. They have seized that power on orders from their masters of the great conspiracy and the objective is to brainwash the people into accepting the phony peace bait to transform the United States into an enslaved unit of the United Nations' one-world government.

"First of all, bear in mind that the so-called U.N. police action in Korea, fought by the United States in which 150,000 of our sons were murdered and maimed, was part of the plot; just as the undeclared by Congress war in Vietnam in which our sons are dying is part of the plot; just as the plot against Rhodesia and South Africa in which our sons will be dying is part of the U.N. plot. However, the vitally important thing for all Americans, all you mothers of the boys who died in Korea and are now dying in Vietnam, to know is that our so-called leaders in Washington, who we elected to safeguard our nation and our constitution, are the betrayers and that behind them are a comparatively small group of men whose sole objective is to enslave the whole world of humanity in their satanic plot of one-world government.

"Now in order to give you a very clear picture of this satanic plot, I will go back to its beginning, clear back in the middle of the 18th century and name the men who put that plot into action and then bring you down to the present - today's status of that plot. Now as a matter of further intelligence, a term used by the FBI, let me clarify the meaning of the expression "he is a liberal." The enemy, meaning the one-world conspirators, have seized upon that word "liberal" as a cover-up for their activities. It sounds so innocent and so humanitarian to be liberal. Well, make sure that the person who calls himself a liberal or is described as a liberal is not in truth a "red."

isuisse.ifrance.com...



reply posted on 15-12-2003 @ 06:29 PM by ADVISOR
Very deep...

I was just going over some of Clintons actions as president. Happened to renotice the timeing of many signings and actons he took as Commander in Chief.

I cannot and do not vouch to the credibilitly of the source I will present next, that is Tassadars call.

This first link is long and very detailed,

the SOHO connection

Recently there has been some controversy over a series of executive orders issued by President Bill Clinton. If you are not familiar with EO's, they are directives from the President to administer the agencies that fall under the executive branch. These are not subject to approval by congress, and automatically become law. The controversy arose over the language of EO13083, signed quietly by Clinton when he was in Birmingham, England last May 14th for the G-8 summit. The order concerns federalism and states rights, and Clintons version revokes a previous order by President Reagan. What is so chilling about Clinton's version is that it removes or overrides Reagan's language that protects states from regulations imposed by federal agencies without the approval of congress. It also cedes all power not specifically listed in the constitution to the federal government, a direct contradiction of the constitution which places such unspecified powers in the hands of the states. Responding to the controversy, congress passed a resolution asking President Clinton to revoke the order. Instead, he suspended the order on August 5th, 1998 for 90 days. This means it becomes law (unless congress challenges it) on November 6th,

This next link goes along with the post above.
The New Clinton Administration

Again credibility of site is left to readers discretion.


reply posted on 15-12-2003 @ 09:38 PM by ADVISOR
Third sentence, second paragraph of forward to "The Phase III Report of U.S. Commission on National Security/21st Century"

www.nssg.gov...

This is a l o n g read, that only begins to get good at the "Executive summary"(At least for me). Where it begins talk of an "... independant National Homeland Security Agency (NHSA) ..."

Independant, by nature means self dependant. May draw closer scrutiny, which is why I dig deeper...

Reading much of this long report, I concluded this is not only a "blueprint" for reorganizing U.S. security, but an example of how most if not all "independant" "Agencies"
may conduct themselves.
To wonder where I am going with this, I need only remind thoseof you how the CIA has "self financed" itself by "independant" means.

Undated and unclassified

The US Intelligence Community is composed of fiercely independent agencies, each with strong traditions, authorities, and loyalties. They define the world from individual perches, with little time and less incentive to consider grand problems or grand solutions. In many quarters, this has resulted in a call for their dissolution—in effect, advocating starting over with a clean sheet of paper. Beside the obvious point that there is no guarantee that this would work, such an attempt would be so bureaucratically and politically stressful that the result could be a larger disaster than the one we are trying to avoid.

[Edited on 18-12-2003 by ADVISOR]


reply posted on 18-12-2003 @ 04:09 AM by ADVISOR
BUSH PUTS SHADOW GOVERNMENT IN FRAMEWORK OF "CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT"

In response to a question about whether one reason why the shadow government was authorized was that there was a threat of a nuclear attack by al Qaeda, Bush said, "There is — we take every threat seriously. And until this country has routed out terrorists wherever they try to hide, we're not safe.

"Now, we're doing everything we can to protect the American people, and the American people understand that," said the President.


(Credibility?)
Inside the Shadow Government
I glanced over this site, nothing new to me. Figured better add it than not to. Click "Feral House"

Another BBC article, slightly different.
Bush defends shadow government

Notice simularities to the first ran article
Washington sets up shadow government

www.dojgov.net...

[Edited on 18-12-2003 by ADVISOR]


reply posted on 4-1-2004 @ 11:18 PM by omega1
64.227.206.20...


What do you think Advisor????

Some new information but in general its a summary. Do you think it's legit?
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