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Originally posted by Odium
No problem.
The question was, how many of those [Islamic] terrorist organisations came into existance after we invaded Iraq? Because at least three people here, have gone through several pages and found the majority of them are in Iraq, are part of one large organisation and didn't exist in 2002.
Is it no wonder that they hate the United States and Israel? Wouldn't you?
Originally posted by stumason
And as I have corrected many people before, the vast majority of terrorist acts committed either today or in the past 100 years have been done by non-muslim, political groups.
So stating that nearly all terrorists are muslim, then backing it up with a spurrious list containing little cells is a complete lie.
Originally posted by stumason
What about ETA, or the IRA, or the UDF, or FARC, or those Christian fundies in the US, or Indian Communists, or the Nepalese Moaists, or the Red Brigade, or those Greeks with the date as a name (can't remember)?
Originally posted by Odium
Is it no wonder that they hate the United States and Israel? Wouldn't you?
Originally posted by Freedom_for_sum
IRA--Not religious; Theyr'e nationalists/separatists
UDF--Who are they?
Originally posted by infinite
You are joking right? IRA are Catholic and UDF/UVF are Protestant. Read up on Irish history and you see its soaked in religion. IRA would kill protestants and UDF/UVF would kill Catholics.
Originally posted by Odium
Do not try and change the history of the United States, like it or not they have used their veto time and time again to protect Israel.
Originally posted by Freedom_for_sum
Originally posted by stumason
And as I have corrected many people before, the vast majority of terrorist acts committed either today or in the past 100 years have been done by non-muslim, political groups.
So stating that nearly all terrorists are muslim, then backing it up with a spurrious list containing little cells is a complete lie.
Go back and read my posts. I am talking about religious terrorism and regardless of how you want to dress up this pig, it remains that global Islamic terroism is the vast majority of religious terroism today and will continue to be for a long time. I never said "all terrorists are muslim" and in fact never even imlplied it. You will get nowhere with your points if you continue to put words into others' mouths.
Originally posted by stumason
What about ETA, or the IRA, or the UDF, or FARC, or those Christian fundies in the US, or Indian Communists, or the Nepalese Moaists, or the Red Brigade, or those Greeks with the date as a name (can't remember)?
ETA--(Basque Fatherland and Freedom) Not religious; They are separatists/nationalsits
IRA--Not religious; Theyr'e nationalists/separatists
UDF--Who are they?
FARC--(Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) Not religious; they are communists/socialists
"Christian fundees"? Like who?
Crap--I'm done for now.
Originally posted by Freedom_for_sum
As far as providing some WMD to Iraq--This, I believe, we are giulty of and is a perfect example of why the expression "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is a very dangerous relationship to live by. It was this relationship we were concerned about between Hussein and UBL and, at least in part, served as the reason for attacking Iraq.
Originally posted by Odium
You have yet to show me.
I have been learning Arabic for three years now, I know enough to do well in an average conversation and to read parts of the Qu'Ran.
And actually no, since you have not been able to show a quote where it says it is O.K. to harm another than I am still right.
Where does it say you can kill someone/attack a Nation, unless it is hostile towards you or it is an act of self defence?
Originally posted by Odium
And if you dig a bit deeper, you'll find the 9/11 Commission found no link between Osama and Hussein, except the one where Osama was told to go take a flying leap.
Source: Qu'Ran
`Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress limits God does not love transgressors.' (2:190)
`If they seek peace, then seek you peace. And trust in Allah. Verily, He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower.' (8:61)
Originally posted by rogue1
^^^
Tell me this Odium, how do muslims see poeple who are not from the ' book ' ? As equals or inferior ?
Originally posted by stumason
Dude, citing a bunch of terrorist groups and claiming the only ones doing religious terrorism are muslims is wrong.
Originally posted by stumason
Look at terrorism as a whole and you clearly see that Muslims form only a small minority of past and present terrorist actions.
Originally posted by stumason
Christian Fundies...your seriously telling me you dont know what I am talking about? OK city mate......