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Originally posted by Odium
What about the actions of Israel?
Everytime they fire a missile into Palestine, that is a terrorist attack. Isn't it now 12,000 people since 1998?
Originally posted by sal88
anyone got a transcript of the entire speech? right now we only have about 4 quotes from it.
"The world arrogant powers founded the Zionist regime at the heart of the Muslim world as a base for their own expansionist intentions."
"Ever since the Palestinian nation focused attention on promotion of an Islamic atmosphere and attitude, day-to-day success and progress have been witnessed among Palestinians"
He added that a world without the US and Israel would be possible.
"Today, supporting the Palestinian nation and objective is a definite and indispensable principle for continued campaign to achieve victory.
"The palestinian issue has not ended. It would end when a government belonging to the Palestinian people takes over, the homeless return home and a free election is held to form a government representing all people"
"Given that the issue of Palestine is a key matter facing the world of Islam, a certain group cannot declare their views to the effect behind closed doors"
"The Zionist regime claims to advocate the human rights, while it has stockpiled a great amount of nuclear weapons."
He pointed to his recent meeting with the ambassador of one of the countries which held talks with Iran about the country's nuclear issue and said
(Mahmoud Ahmadinejad):"During the meeting I told the foreign diplomat that they support the Zionist regime, but when it comes to Iran they preach the human rights."
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- marching with the protesters -- signaled he stood by his remarks, even as Iranian officials tried to defuse the issue.
"My word is the same as that of (the) Iranian nation," he told the official IRNA news agency.
"They are free to say but their words lack any credit," he said, when asked about global reaction to his comments.
Originally posted by Odium
Israel needs to step forward, acknowledge their actions and then maybe, just maybe you might see a peace process.
So many people fail to remember or even know that the land that is now Israel was owned/controlled by england/UK.
It was not Palestinian-it was ENGLISH.
If they want the land given to the previous owner-it should go back to ENGLAND.
Originally posted by waynos
If you go back to the fundamental question, what right did the British Empire, or the Jewish people have for taking any land of anyone and creating an artificial country? Such a move was immoral and borne out of the guilt we collectively felt for the suffering of the Jews in WW2.
Is there any wonder we have reaped the whirlwind of hatred from these people ever since?
Imagine if we forced white Americans out of their homes at gunpoint to give the Native Americans their land back in a sudden attack of guilt, it amounts to the same thing.
Originally posted by Odium
But, Seekerof, are the actiosn of Israel also not immoral?
Why should Israel get to say if Iran should be allowed Nuclear Power or not? Do they control the World? Should any Nation have more so over another Nation?
We had a chance with Iran to guide them in the right direction and coming out and saying "You deal with them or we do" has blown it till they gain a new leader. Hopefully, the Supreme Islamic Ruler can bring him under-control as can the old President - who seems to be in charge of their Nuclear option.
Originally posted by Seekerof
Israel has about as much to say on this as any other nation concerned about Iran acquiring nuclear capabilities, Odium. I mean geez, its not like Israel is openly and continually citing that it wishes to utterly destroy Iran, whereas, Iran is. Hence, with such continued rhetoric, is it not justified that Israel would openly dispute Iran over the acquiring of nuclear weapons?
Originally posted by Seekerof
Originally posted by waynos
If you go back to the fundamental question, what right did the British Empire, or the Jewish people have for taking any land of anyone and creating an artificial country? Such a move was immoral and borne out of the guilt we collectively felt for the suffering of the Jews in WW2.
As such, is Iran's continued declarations of Israel's total destruction not immoral?
Is there any wonder we have reaped the whirlwind of hatred from these people ever since?
Imagine if we forced white Americans out of their homes at gunpoint to give the Native Americans their land back in a sudden attack of guilt, it amounts to the same thing.
Are you justifying Iran's continued declarations of Israel's total destruction?
Are you supporting such continued calls and proclamations for the destruction of Israel?
seekerof
[edit on 28-10-2005 by Seekerof]
Source
JERUSALEM — Israel will consider "all options" to prevent Iran from producing nuclear weapons, Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz said in an interview published Wednesday, marking the latest in a series of Israeli threats against Iran's nuclear program.
You might want to check this out:
Maybe a position like this one is why Iran feels the need for Nukes.
Originally posted by waynos
As such, is Iran's continued declarations of Israel's total destruction not immoral?
Are you justifying Iran's continued declarations of Israel's total destruction?
Are you supporting such continued calls and proclamations for the destruction of Israel?