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Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
The Netherlands uses Fluoride in it's water, we have penicilin in it and some other additives to keep us Healthy, anyone who believes that there is more to it is maybe a little bit too paranoid.
We brush or teeth with fluoride don't we? the freaking dentist uses it.
Sorry but i'll remain skeptical about this since I've been drinking flourised water for my entire life.
Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
We brush our teeth with fluoride don't we? the freaking dentist uses it.
Originally posted by djbarney
The main confusion comes form it's use as a tooth hardener.
Fluorine DOES harden tooth enamel when applied DIRECTLY to the tooth!..
The lethal dose of artificial flouride is 50 times smaller than naturally occuring fluoride.
The fluoride naturally found in water is calcium fluoride (CaF2 ) as fluorine has a strong affinity to calcium. When water is artificially fluoridated sodium fluoride (NaF), sodium silicofluoride or hydrofluosilic acid is added. Because calcium bonds relatively strongly with the fluoride ion, the fluoride ions are much less available than in the artificially-produced fluoride. The artificial compounds are more toxic because they are more soluble in water and the fluoride dissociates from the compound. In the body this fluoride becomes the "most exclusive bone seeking element, owing to its affinity for calcium phosphate". Studies have shown that the lethal dose of NaF is approximately 50 times smaller than that of CaF2 (naturally-occurring fluoride).1
Artificial fluoride becomes the "most exclusive bone seeking element" in the body
Fluoride was the key chemical in atomic bomb production, according to the documents. Massive quantities of fluoride - millions of tons - were essential for the manufacture of bomb-grade uranium and plutonium for nuclear weapons throughout the Cold War. One of the most toxic chemicals known, the documents reveal that fluoride rapidly emerged as the leading chemical health hazard of the U.S atomic bomb program - both for workers and for nearby communities.
Much of the original proof that fluoride is "safe" for humans in low doses was generated by A-bomb program scientists, who had been secretly ordered to provide "evidence useful in litigation" against defense contractors for fluoride injury to citizens. The first lawsuits against the U.S. A-bomb program were not over radiation, but over fluoride damage, the documents reveal.
Human studies were required. Bomb program researchers played a leading role in the design and implementation of the most extensive U.S. study of the health effects of fluoridating public drinking water - conducted in Newburgh, New York from 1945 to 1956. Then, in a classified operation code-named "Program F," they secretly gathered and analysed blood and tissue samples from Newburgh citizens, with the cooperation of State Health Department personnel.
The original "secret" version - obtained by these reporters - of a 1948 study published by Program F scientists in the Journal of the American Dental Association shows that evidence of the adverse health effects from fluoride was censored by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) - considered the most powerful of Cold War agencies - for reasons of national security.
Originally posted by Excitable_Boy
I use Tom's of Maine toothpaste and drink only bottle water....but most people in the world do not..........
Some bottled water companies fluoridate their water as well =( Sometimes they will disclose this via their website other times you have to contact them.
I believe fluoride in water is one of the most obvious and stupid conspiracies in the world today. If this gets by most of the world, then wtf else is going on? O_O
Originally posted by bsl4doc
You're missing the point here. We use flouride containing water and toothpaste all over Europe, I would think in the same quantities if not more so, and we don't have the rates of depression and ADD as your country. Any explanation?
Honestly, it seems to me ADD is a cultural thing in many instances.
Mental illness is emerging as ”Europe's unseen killer”, medical experts said at a meeting here over the weekend.
About 58,000 people kill themselves every year in the European Union (EU), European commissioner for health and consumer protection Markos Kyprianou said at a meeting here over the weekend. This compares with around 50,700 deaths a year currently in road accidents and 5,350 in murder or homicide.
The World Health Organisation (WHO) says 873,000 people commit suicide around the world every year. The number in Europe region, which also includes European countries around the EU, is 163,000. Suicide is the world's 13th biggest cause of death, while it is the seventh largest cause of the death in the Europe region.
The Europe region of WHO includes 52 countries (the EU has 25), with a population of 850 million.
Most suicides are linked to mental illness, experts say. Fifteen percent of people who suffer severe depression commit suicide, 56 percent of them attempt it.
The suicide rate across the European region is on average 17.5 per 100,000. But the incidence varies considerably within the region, from 44.0 in Lithuania, 36.4 in the Russian Federation and 33.9 in Belarus, to 5.9 in Italy, 4.6 in Malta and 2.8 in Greece.
But despite the high incidence of mental illness, 44-70 percent of people with mental health disorders in Europe receive no treatment, WHO says.