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reply posted on 9-10-2005 @ 12:05 PM by jumpspace



reply posted on 9-10-2005 @ 10:38 PM by soficrow
Originally posted by I_s_i_s
Originally posted by soficrow
The point is - boosting your immune system when you have the flu can make it worse.

You gotta be kidding me!




...I have gigabytes of related research - too much to cull, organize, and post here and now.

But briefly - the premise is that most modern disease results from misfolded proteins - infectious prions.

I already have posted references - numerous times - that track a protein called "a-smooth muscle actin" (ASMA) and resultant pathogenic myofibroblasts from people (in a disease called fibromuscular dysplasia first acknowledged 1938) to US turkeys in 1980, trout in 1981 - then Japanese quail in 1996, and H5N1 bird flu in 1997 in Hong Kong.

I also have shown that nearly 100% of the American population has ASMA/FMD by adulthood.

The point is - [prions use the immune system to spread in the body. There is NO doubt that inflammation speeds prion disease progression, and while the initial effect may not be acute, such diseases are progressive and eventually result in chronic debilitation and disability.

...The paper posted above simply provides substantiation from another perspective.




Strengthening your immune system is the only way to fight disease.



Pollution and modern disease have changed the way our immune systems function. It seems to matter when you boost your immune system - and immunity simply does not work the way the drug and medical insurance industries would have us believe it does.

This paper is a must read:

PDF: Toxicant-induced loss of tolerance – An Emerging Theory of Disease?
Toxicant-Induced Loss of Tolerance – An Emerging Theory of Disease?
or www.herc.org...

Claudia Miller is quite amazing, and her testimonies before Congress and various institutions are revealing, for example:

Testimony of Dr. Claudia Miller during the Public Comment of the FDA Advisory Panel for Silicone Gel Breast Implants in April 2005.

Committee on Veterans’ Affairs





You said you've taken the "anti-oxidant" approach and it did not work well for you. May I ask what exactly you took and for what if its not too personal?




I was diagnosed with FMD in 1990 - after I almost died. Angioplasty took care of a kidney artery blockage that was impacting all my major organs - I was told it was incurable and would recur, but would be treatable. Following a gamma globulin shot in 1996 - my body started falling apart: on top of the FMD I now have COPD, fibromyalgia, enhanced pain syndrome, a lesion in my brainstem that impacts my autonomous nervous system, IBS, and osteoarthritis. I now know that the gamma globulin was contaminated, or incompatible with my immune system - or both.

I am the original 'granola kid' - and know about healthy eating, living, and supplements. I assure you I don't drink Coke. I don't even buy processed food. That ain't it.

...When I say my symptoms were relieved when I started treating my health problems as prion-related, that's exactly what I mean:

1. NOT boosting the immune system when I have a cold, flu, or other inflammatory effect.
2. Drinking green tea.
3. Cooking with curry (for curcumin), and sage.
4. Taking ranitidine (an antihistamine targeted to the gut).

Items 2-4 are all documented as inhibiting prion replication. ...The key to helping immune function appropriately is mitigating inflammation - antioxidants promote an inflammatory response, and help prions spread.


So again - if you are an American adult - chances are VERY good that you have an underlying prion infection. Normally, it would take decades to manifest, BUT, prions use the immune system to spread in the body - so flu or other infections help the underlying disease to spread. Because H5N1 bird flu is linked to ASMA, which is an infectious prion, it's a double whammy.

Strengthen your immune system before you get sick - but back off on the boosters if you're infected.


Isis - You obviously know about pharmaceuticals or neutriceuticals - so you know there is a long running controversy. Numerous studies show that natural food sources are okay, but antioxidant supplements do NOT preserve health, and often, are linked to greater risk of heart disease at least.

Much of the controversy obviously is synthetic - and generated for financial purposes - NOT in the interests of patients.



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reply posted on 10-10-2005 @ 03:02 PM by loam
I thought you all might find this interesting and potentially useful...


Cranberry and oregano make seafood safe to eat

IN CULINARY terms they are poles apart: one is a staple of Italian cuisine, the other an essential accompaniment to roast turkey. But put oregano and cranberries together and you have a potent antibacterial agent that could cut the risk of food poisoning from infected seafood.

So say Kalidas Shetty and his colleagues at the University of Massachusetts in Amherst, who have been experimenting with different ratios of cranberry and oregano extract to kill Vibrio parahaemolyticus, a seafood-dwelling bacterium that can cause two-day bouts of stomach cramps, vomiting and diarrhoea.

While both plants are known to contain phenolic compounds with antimicrobial activity, Shetty had a hunch that they might be more effective when used in combination. He found that using a 50:50 mixture to coat cod fillets and shrimps infected with V. parahaemolyticus was far more effective at killing the bugs than either of the compounds on its own - probably because they disrupt different parts of the bacterial cell. Lowering the pH with a dash of lactic acid made the concoction even more effective (Innovative Food Science and Emerging Technologies, vol 6, p 453).




reply posted on 10-10-2005 @ 03:10 PM by soficrow
Originally posted by loam
I thought you all might find this interesting and potentially useful...


Cranberry and oregano make seafood safe to eat

...put oregano and cranberries together and you have a potent antibacterial agent that could cut the risk of food poisoning from infected seafood.





Very cool loam.

Thanks.


Isis - most likely the key to unravelling the discrepancies in reports on antioxidants and 'free radical theory' is the timing of therapy. Boosting is good when no inflammation is present - but not if the immune system is actively fighting infection, with inflammation.



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reply posted on 10-10-2005 @ 04:30 PM by SourGrapes
Originally posted by loam
I thought you all might find this interesting and potentially useful...

Cranberry and oregano make seafood safe to eat

IN CULINARY terms they are poles apart: one is a staple of Italian cuisine, the other an essential accompaniment to roast turkey. But put oregano and cranberries together and you have a potent antibacterial agent that could cut the risk of food poisoning from infected seafood.


Wasabi is another one that kills the bacteria in the fish. Yum!


reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 05:02 PM by Benevolent Heretic
Scientists warn of possibility of drug-resistant flu


US scientists warn that a drug-resistant Avian flu strain could arise with unrestrained and improper use of available drugs.

The warning came as governments around the world are stockpiling antiviral drugs and the H5N1 avian flu strain threatens to break out into a flu pandemic.

The virus has killed 65 people in Asia since late 2003 and recent reports of an outbreak amongst poultry in Turkey are unnerving European states.

How could improper or unrestrained use of antiviral drugs affect the battle against Avian flu?

Justin Teo spoke to Dr. Jeffrey Staples, Senior Medical Advisor at International SOS, for more.


I don't like the drug angle. I'm thinking more and more seriously that herbs, instead of vaccines and parmaceuticals, are going to be the way to go with this thing. I know that's what we're preparing with.

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