i think they knew about this when i visited philidelphia several years ago, and why woudl you think it has anything to do with the illuminati?

Well for one, if anyone does a "background" check on Ben Franklin, one would find that he had ties to Freemasonry --- bigtime--- and had affiliations with a number of notorious "Illuminati" individuals in England.....and the story goes on.....

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yeah, i know. but that's no reason to believe he killed all those people, i think tha'ts pretty rediculous

Ben Franklin was also a member of the Hellfire Club, a group which practiced black masses, orgies, prostitution rituals, etc.

Would some one tell me meaning of "Illuminati".. makes no sense to me.. "illuminate"? or something else? What does it mean?

No NO NO NOO

WAIT A SECOND


THIS IS ENTIRELY BOGUS

CHECK FACTS BEFORE POSTING

Go OUTSIDE OF ATS for additional info before you comment on extremist news items

For those who couldn't even read the story posted:

Franklin rented the house from a RENOWNED ANATOMIST. That is, he lived in a home owned by someone who made a living by teaching people how to identify bones. Anyone who has ever read a history book will know that anatomists, in this time period, collected human bones. The only reason we HAVE modern medicine in the west is because people DID collect and STUDY bones in this time period.

Only people who are ignorant of history (and who did not bother to read the story posted above) could read occult garbage into this.

Again, if you want to post, read the story you are reacting to. Read a book about the period you are dealing with. DO NOT POST BS MISLEADING TITLES FOR THREADS.

[Edited on 22-8-2003 by onlyinmydreams]

Originally posted by Uninen
Would some one tell me meaning of "Illuminati".. makes no sense to me.. "illuminate"? or something else? What does it mean?

The Illuminati are the Illuminated ones, or the ones who see.

Around the time of the French Revolution there was an organization called the Illuminati in Bavaria organized by a guy named Adam Weishaupt (sp?). They managed to tick off both the Church and the Aristocracy by talking about radical ideas like "men should have rights just because" and "maybe science will replace superstition/religion in helping us to understand the world"

Anyway, the government banned them, their members all went on to other things (like revolution) and they were never heard from again.

Except...

Lot's of people believe all sorts of things about them.

Some people say they're still around, only now they're the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, and the Council on Foreign Relations and other groups made up of the power elite.

Many conservative christians still cling to the Church propaganda from hundreds of years ago, and they think the Illuminati are a force of evil, bringing on the NWO, the mark of the beast, and are manipulating world events to bring on the battle of Armageddon and the rule of the anti-Christ. These people claim they're occultists, involved in all sorts of evil sacrifices and things.

Some people have even stranger theories...claiming that the Weishaupt group was only a cover for an organization that dates back into antiquity. They're from the lost continent of Atlantis, Mu or Lemuria. Their goal is immortality.

Whatever theory you subscribe to, nobody likes them. Everyone who thinks they might be real agrees they're up to no good.

I remember hearing they also found bones hidden, HIDDEN, under the floor boards and in the walls.
Now tell me what anatomist hides his bones?

I remember hearing they also found bones hidden, HIDDEN, under the floor boards and in the walls.

He doesnt. Ben Franklin did have links with the illuminati. And those bones do point to something, but what?

Fanklin was a Illuminati ympathizer as was Jefferson, but as was stated he didnt murder 1200 people, prob would not have used the house had he known "bones were in the basement", the hellfire club was essentially a bookclub, where in the world did black magic come into it?

Being a illuminatie sympathizer in those days was not a bad thing, the illuminati were the good guys

Originally posted by Diablo
I remember hearing they also found bones hidden, HIDDEN, under the floor boards and in the walls.
Now tell me what anatomist hides his bones?

Because A: many had to work on stolen bodies from cemataries
and B: You just done throw the bodies in the rubbish bin when you are done with them.

Originally posted by Uninen
Would some one tell me meaning of "Illuminati".. makes no sense to me.. "illuminate"? or something else? What does it mean?

Illuminati most believe are the "Elite" , "Special" , "Powerfull" , Rich. They rule the world we know today. Most of them are secret society Freemasons some would believe.

Lucifer is known as the lightbringer. Illuminate is to light. Illuminati are against our God (at least mine). They worship their god Satan. In "god we trust" means in Satan they trust.

[edit on 10/10/2009 by Chaos Lord]

[edit on 10/10/2009 by Chaos Lord]

Franklin was not conected to the Illuminati because the Illuminati did not exist.. its a mythical group that all things misunderstood in politics, ritual and economics are grouped under by those ignorant of history.

It was probably for scientific purpose that the bones were there. Or perhaps he killed people in the house... he was a very strange man after all. I highly doubt it originated with rituals of black magic or what ever BS is being claimed.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
Franklin was not conected to the Illuminati because the Illuminati did not exist

Actually, the Illuminati were quite active in Europe during Franklin's day.

It was probably for scientific purpose that the bones were there. Or perhaps he killed people in the house... he was a very strange man after all. I highly doubt it originated with rituals of black magic or what ever BS is being claimed.

William Hewson ran an anatomy school from the house. The bones were used there long after Franklin moved to Paris.