Uh, Rant, Christians have never gassed Jews.
That doesn't even make sense, as our Boss was a Jewish carpenter.
Think about it!!!
Hitler was an altar boy, he went to school in a monastery, and grew up to become an 'annointed soldier of God' - his movement was sanctioned by the
HRCC when they failed to excommunicate him, and he often spoke of Christianity and Jesus - he wanted the Christians as allies against the Jews.
I think this site makes a great case:
In a speech delivered April 12, 1922, published in "My New Order," and quoted in Freethought Today (April 1990), Hitler said:
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few
followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but
as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge
to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Make no mistake, while Hitler was most certainly not a good
Christian, he was definitely raised Christian, and he recycled a lot of the
rhetoric for his own purposes. Anyway, here's one more relevant morsel from that site (it's a good read, I think anyone interested a balanced look
at the question 'was Hitler a Christian' should check it out - they cover the other side too, but less convincingly IMO).
In a speech at Koblenz, August 26, 1934, Hitler said: "National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary it
stands on the ground of a real Christianity . . . For their interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of
degeneracy in the world of today, in our fight against a Bolshevist culture, against atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for
a consciousness of a community in our national life . . . These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles!"
Men who were self-described Christians gassed the Jews (and a lot of other folks too, homosexuals, gypsies, blacks, etc.), make no mistake about it.
Were they real
Christians? Of course not (IMO), but we could argue all day about what, exactly, a real
Christian is or is not.
The point is, he was raised Christian, many of his soldiers were Christian, he used Christianity to gain support, and the church did not stand up to
him (because, face facts, by the time the Nazis rose to power, the church had been persecuting Jews for close to two MILLENIA - that's two
years). Hitler was a rookie anti-semite. by any estimation.
Hell, even the yellow badge that Jews were made to wear had its roots in Christianity (more than 700 years before the Nazis), read this and learn.
Canon 68. Jews and Muslims shall wear a special dress to enable them to be distinguished from Christians (see Judenhut, yellow badge). This is partly
so that Christians will not unknowingly have sexual relations with Jews or Muslims. The latter are not to go outdoors during four days of Easter
He was a devious, lying, murderous bastard, and there's no question in my mind that he played Christians for fools when he got them to go along with
his crazy plan - and I have no doubt he would have smashed the Christians and their institutions in an instant if he thought he had the ability to do
so, but he drew inspiration from their own prejudices, and used them as a means of control.
Anyway, my intent is not to bash Christians, because there were surely many who objected to his deeds. There were even officials in the church
heirarchy who thought he should be faced down and who thought the church should take a tougher stance against Nazism (seeing as it was a threat to ALL
other religions, it being a mutually exclusive religion itself).
My intent is only to shoot down the statement - Christians never gassed Jews, and the notion Thomas seems to hold that Christians would never hurt a
Jew because of their prophet's ancestry. That's simply not so.
(Thomas hasn't been around in a while, and I doubt he'll read my reply if he ever does come back, but I saw this thread had re-surfaced, read what
he said, and felt I had to reply to that blatant attempt at whitewashing history.)
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