Bullets Dipped in Pig's blood Will Deny Them Entry to Heaven

Originally posted by Boatphone

Originally posted by boogyman
The whole pigblood thing seems like an urban legend to me. I mean it just sounds too conveniently backward to me. Like some kind of propaganda made up to make these people look like a bunch of superstitious natives too primitive to function in the modern world. I wonder if any of the Muslim ATSers could shed some light on the issue.

Sounds to backward to be true? We are talking about people who choose to blow themselves up and innocent people with them. There is no need to make up propaganda about these people. They are backwards superstitious people. They believe that God wants them to kill all people who are not part of Islam! They are living in a different time.

Use your brain man!

Wow, talk about sweeping generalisations. You obviously have never had personal contact with a Muslim before. Maybe you should do a little socialising and reading before you making such comments.

Its mainly a psychological deterrence, soapydodger.

:shk:

I did a little lookup on pigs and Muslims and the concept of why pigs or pork are forbidden. The site is a brief introdution on how to be a Muslim.

www.geocities.com...

It appears that the that pork is forbidden because of the following:
"Being clean not only refers to the outside. One who drinks alcoholic beverages or uses drugs such as coc aine or heroin defiles himself on many levels. Pork is forbidden because the pig is an unclean animal which eats filth. This prohibition goes back to Abraham and Moses before Muhammed. It is thought by some to be a special protection against the disease of trichinosis. The trichina worms which cause this painful, crippling disease are passed from pig to pig when pigs eat the raw flesh of dead pigs. Cooking pork thoroughly kills the trichina worms and prevents the disease."

Still, pork is forbidden. The poster at the Guard unit was disrespecftul as there are many Muslims in the US. It is black humor to say the least, and thats about as much comment as youll get out of me on that.

Peace

[edit on 13-7-2005 by HIFIGUY]

[edit on 13-7-2005 by HIFIGUY]

If this worked I think it would be great and our governments would be negligent to not use it, but I doubt its authenticity as well and most likely some cleric would issue a fatwah saying pig blood bullets won't interfere with a martyr's trip to paradise.

you can bet it's already happening.
It's just not talked about much.

I'll bet, on the larger munitions, there are drawings, stickers etc. of pigs.
It's more for the shooter, than the shootee..

So it's okay for America to terrorize muslims with bullets and pig's blood and helicopters and, well, you get the point..but it's not okay for 'terrorists' to terrorize America with similar acts of violence?

Terrorize the Terrorists to prove once and for all that Terrorism is wrong?

American Government: "Holy what? You better not mess with us or we'll blow you up. We need your oil more than you do, so we're gonna take it." *sets up camp on sovereign holy land*
Fanatics: "Get off our land or we'll blow you up."
American Government: "If you blow us up we'll blow you up more."
Fanatics: *blows America up*
American Government: *Blows Mid-East up more*
Fanatics: "Get off our land and stop blowing us up or we'll blow you up using scary things like Anthrax infected monkeys!"
American Government: "If you use Anthrax infected monkeys we'll beat you and take pictures of you in compromising positions with masculine female marine recruits."
Fanatics: "That won't stop us! We're still gonna blow you up!"
American Government: "Just be Democratic and stop blowing us up!"
Fanatics: "We've decided, democratically, that you suck, and we're going to keep blowing you up."
American Government: "We're sick of getting blown up, so either you can stop, or we'll shoot you with pig's blood so you won't get into heaven!"
Fanatics: "Martyrdom trumps pig's blood!"
American Government: "What about your 72 virgins, you think they're gonna want you smellin' like pig's blood?"
Me Chiming in: "Actually, it's grapes of infinite clarity, not virgins."
American Government and Fanatics in chorus: "What'd he say?"
Me: "Grapes. You get white grapes, not virgins."
American Government: "Oh..well..do you think your grapes will still..no, wait..hang on..."
Fanatics: "Are you serious? That's not what we were told."
Me: "Dead serious, you're being used."
Fanatics: "Screw this, it just isn't worth the hassle, we're gonna go be Canadian."
American Government: "Aw shucks, we were gonna invade there next..but what the heck, we'll go to South-East Asia instead."
SE Asia: "Wait, what'd he say?"
Fanatics: "Hooray!"
Me: "Let's go get ice cream!"

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I think its a great idea.

Think about it: The drive of these people is based on beliefs, beliefs so strong they are willing not only to kill themselves, but kill little kids and women civilians to make points and destroy confidence. When you are fighting an enemy with a system of beliefs that are greater than life itself, then only attacks that effect that belief will be effective.

They believe that by carrying out their “mission”, even if it kills innocents, they will get rewarded with martyrdom and a wonderful afterlife beyond all imagination. Wouldn’t the best attacks play on those beliefs? Imagine the impact pigs blood tipped bullets would have on that belief, a denial of the very rewards they fight for.

I know the idea seems barbaric and it “stoops” to a lower level, but you need to fight fire with fire. You don’t use water on a grease fire because it doesn’t work….

Originally posted by skippytjc
I think its a great idea.

I know the idea seems barbaric and it “stoops” to a lower level, but you need to fight fire with fire. You don’t use water on a grease fire because it doesn’t work….

You don't need to fight fire with fire, you just need to make sure the fire doesn't get the oxygen to burn, only that way can you fight fire, if you fight fire with fire, you're going to get burned !

Originally posted by XyZeR

Originally posted by skippytjc
I think its a great idea.

I know the idea seems barbaric and it “stoops” to a lower level, but you need to fight fire with fire. You don’t use water on a grease fire because it doesn’t work….

You don't need to fight fire with fire, you just need to make sure the fire doesn't get the oxygen to burn, only that way can you fight fire, if you fight fire with fire, you're going to get burned !

Nobody is going to get burned here. These are nothing but terrorist savages, the good guys will prevail... AS ALWAYS.

The good people of this earth will shed these terrorist dogs like the animals they are, whether they use pigs blood dipped bullets or good old fashioned DU rounds.

And my family and I will be safe and sound from them as our brave soldiers and heroes eradicate the filthy terrorist pigs from the land.

They can go to their afterlife with all their virgins if they wish too and we would be delighted to help them along the way...

Originally posted by skippytjc
The good people of this earth will shed these terrorist dogs like the animals they are, whether they use pigs blood dipped bullets or good old fashioned DU rounds.

You have voted skippytjc for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have one more vote left for this month.

Thank God some people still have some sense left.

Of course these people will be defeated and their ideology will go into the dustbin of history along with many other failed ideologies.

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The problem is, the original "letter" is an urban legend!

urbanlegends.about.com...

And it's been tried before.

It was unsuccessful.


This was the Sepoy Revolt in India where nearly half of India began revolting against British rule and there was a lot of interclass and inter-caste warfare as well as riots and attacks on the British themselves. After a long and bloody conflict (that cost 30 Million pounds in the money of that day... well over 20 billion dollars in today's terms, I believe), the British regained the upper hand -- and quit using waxed cartridges made with animal products.
www.geocities.com...

Very very stupid idea. It didn't work before -- and the people doing the revolting actually weren't the extremist Muslims.

If anything, it would push the entire Arab world and much of Europe into doing things like completely cutting trade with the US... and attacks would increase. No American would be safe.

Stupid, stupid idea.

I hope some of you will help denounce this bigoted netlore and start pointing out the facts of what happened the last time it was tried.

skippytjc,

Nobody is going to get burned here. These are nothing but terrorist savages, the good guys will prevail... AS ALWAYS.
The good people of this earth will shed these terrorist dogs like the animals they are, whether they use pigs blood dipped bullets or good old fashioned DU rounds.

I turely wish to see this come to past but unfortunately, I do not see much hope of it. First, there is no way for someone to identify who is or who is not a terrorist so there is no way to round all or even most of them up.
Look at the troubles that Germany had with the French resistance back in ww2. Your best friend could be a sympathizer and you would never know it until it was too late.

As for the people of the earth getting together to rid themselves of the terrorists, I will assume that you are referencing the islamic extremists as well as groups like the PLO, IRA and ETA. In regards to the islamic extremists, Islam is one of the largest as well as one of the fastest growing religions in the world. At it's present rate of growth there will be more islamics in the world than there are non-islamics. Although the islamic religion is one of peace, many still support the extremists and see them as a necessary evil, just as the crusaders and torquemada's group were seen back in the olden days.
Remember, "good" is defined by the beholder so what is good for you may not be good to another.

PLO, IRA, ETA, all have their supporters as well though they are more of a racial based fight rather than faith. But the same goes for them as I mentioned for the islamic extremists, many see them as a necessary evil that will eventually right wrongs that have been done.

Many today on both sides of the fight see that the end justify the means.

Ok here how the stupid idea being going on,still remember how the british lost their war with afghanistan before. the british army use a pigs skin to cover all the muslim death body.so in this present are we stilll want to make a nonsense thing.okay i m muslim and a full supporter to all my friend who doing their right to throw all out.who ever invade their own country.but can i do a jihad just like that of course no.jihad meaning very wide means not only to war but to bussiness,in living,studies,a lot of a variant mean.people if anybody has it own luck to enter the heaven it not need to use pigc blood.
but why not take together nuke b-cases that much more better.everthing will be clear off even the dust

So this is what makes it to a "conspiracy" site now-a-days? Interesting.

I believe with the poster above who said this is probably just black humour on the military's part . They have been known to do this throoughout time. As we all know as well, it is much easier to kill an enemy AFTER he has been de-humanized to the point of where you no longer view them as human(sound familiar?, read throughout the thread)

The funniest thing is ...people actually entertaining this idea. Let's entertain the possibility that some infidel did dip bullets in pigs blood. So what? You think that a soldier has the ability to circumnavigate the creators will? This is just another aspect of American arrogance that islam points to time and time again.

Muslims believe that Allah is the most benevolent, the most merciful and the most compassionate. If a person follows the commandment to not eat pork then they have fullfilled their duty in Allahs eyes. Just because someone tries to change that, has no bearing on the matter. Allah knows the person never knowingly consumed the swine.

As a matter of fact I think what should be looked at here is the mentality that killing someone is not good enough. The insistence that they must also go to hell as well, is particularly disturbing, to me at least.

Things like this time and time again truly make america live up to it's image of the great satan. If there is an Osama he must be happy as a pig in Sheitze!!! With rubbish like this we are truly living up to all the hype.

[edited for spelling]

[edit on 13-7-2005 by phoenixhasrisin]

Originally posted by djohnsto77

Thank God some people still have some sense left.

However, many would argue its not you or your bud skippy


On the other hand, ill give you a hint fellows, muslims dont drink alcohol, so if you smell like a good tenesee bourbon, they wont touch you i promise !!!

Now dip those bullets !!! Dip'em i said !!!

This is probably just nothing more than just a joke by some military guy, but still anyone seriously considering this I feel is wrong. We are better than these terrorists thugs and I do not think this sort of behaviour is justifiable by any means. I would not want my nations armed forces to stoop to this level for revenge.

If this is what they believe, what about innocents who die in combat or fighters who are not terrorists but just freedom fighters??(yes and I realize that the insurgency in Iraq commit terrorist acts, but i'm talking about the individual here).

If a innocent child or a woman is gunned down by these bullets and the muslim population finds out, it will make things infinitely worse and will provide the terrorists with a great recruiting tool.

We are not barbarians, if we would do such a thing its just going to villify us in the minds of even more muslims.

thanks,
drfunk

I've been saying this all along. We need to fight their psychological war with one of our own. We need to terroize them right back. Publish pictures of terrorist's bodies slathered in pig guts. Let them know that we are packing our missiles with pig's blood and fat; that we are not just dipping our bullets in pig's blood but we are tipping them with pig fat!

I've had enough of this "Islam is peaceful" crap. Obviously it isn't all that peaceful. Where are all of the "good" muslims and why are they not doing anything to put an end to all of this? Perhaps a few well-placed ICBMs loaded with pig innards will get the point across.

Originally posted by skippytjc

Originally posted by XyZeR

Originally posted by skippytjc
I think its a great idea.

I know the idea seems barbaric and it “stoops” to a lower level, but you need to fight fire with fire. You don’t use water on a grease fire because it doesn’t work….

You don't need to fight fire with fire, you just need to make sure the fire doesn't get the oxygen to burn, only that way can you fight fire, if you fight fire with fire, you're going to get burned !

Nobody is going to get burned here. These are nothing but terrorist savages, the good guys will prevail... AS ALWAYS.

The good people of this earth will shed these terrorist dogs like the animals they are, whether they use pigs blood dipped bullets or good old fashioned DU rounds.

And my family and I will be safe and sound from them as our brave soldiers and heroes eradicate the filthy terrorist pigs from the land.

They can go to their afterlife with all their virgins if they wish too and we would be delighted to help them along the way...

Ah but here's a question If i may ask, WHAT makes you think you're on the "good" side ? LOL... Who or what gave you the power to judge over this ?
Who decides what is good and bad ?

Something that is "good" for someone can be the opposite for another. It's all about cultural identity and education.

Try to think in more greys, nothing is as black and white as they want us to believe.

Some repsonses never cease to astound me. It could quite easily be said that certain members posting on this very thread are fundamentalist fanatics to their own cause, refusing to observe the greater perspective, as to them it does not exist, their view of the world is so narrow they may as well be blind.

kenshiro2012 you forgot the FBI, KKK, NRA & CIA.

Ill clear this up for all you people:


GOOD GUYS = NON Extreme Islamic Terrorists

BAD GUYS = Extreme Islamic Terrorists

Can I make that any more simple for you?


And let me beat you racists to the punch: Note I am not calling ALL Muslims, or Muslims at all for that matter, terrorists. Just EXTREME RADICALS.

[edit on 13-7-2005 by skippytjc]