Mad Cow just confirmed on CNN ...

Tests from England are in and it's confirmed that we have our 2nd case. The press conference was on CNN just a few minutes ago.

Considering the government we have in place right now, I'll be thinking twice before I eat beef.

They keep saying it didn't get in the food supply, but they only test a percentage ...

Yep. But they are saying it was a cow that was blocked from the food chain.

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Yep. But they are saying it was a cow that was blocked from the food chain.

Considering the fact that only a small portion of the beef in the US is tested, how many that weren't tested do you think might BE in the food supply?

This will have some bad economic effects, too, since every country in the world will now ban our beef (rightly so, but still ...).

Thanks, Canada.

Put blame where blame is due, the Industry. The fact is our testing policies is more stringent then yours, how long did it take to show up in your cattle? From a previous article I read in the papers during the last incident 1 in 700 Cattle are tested in Canada and its around 1 in 1400 in the USA.

Put blame where blame is due, the Industry. The fact is our testing policies is more stringent then yours, how long did it take to show up in your cattle? From a previous article I read in the papers during the last incident 1 in 700 Cattle are tested in Canada and its around 1 in 1400 in the USA.

I don't think there are any good guys involved on this one. My ire is directed at various officials, not at citizens, by the way.

According to a story on MSNBC, our government has still not seen the light.

www.msnbc.msn.com...

Sometimes I wonder if they sit in Washington trying to figure out how to pass stealth laws that will kill 'unnecessary' Americans. Grr.

ill have you know that the case was found to be "home grown" ie it has nothing to do with canada.

I think this says it all right here...(from yahoo)

"Earlier in the day, Johanns expressed irritation that the new round of testing had been ordered without his knowledge or approval. Inspector General Phyllis Fong, an internal auditor and investigator, has not explained why she ordered the new tests.

"I was asked by the Senate and the president to operate the department," Johanns told reporters Friday morning. "I believe, in this area, very clearly, the secretary should be consulted, whoever the secretary is, before testing is undertaken. From my standpoint, I believe I was put there to operate the department and was very disappointed."


Link here

In other words, "How dare the American people be given full notice of this!"

Ya know, it's a$$holes like this guy and other administration puppets that really make me ashamed to be an American sometimes.

Originally posted by HokkaidoHillbilly
I think this says it all right here...(from yahoo)

"Earlier in the day, Johanns expressed irritation that the new round of testing had been ordered without his knowledge or approval. Inspector General Phyllis Fong, an internal auditor and investigator, has not explained why she ordered the new tests.

"I was asked by the Senate and the president to operate the department," Johanns told reporters Friday morning. "I believe, in this area, very clearly, the secretary should be consulted, whoever the secretary is, before testing is undertaken. From my standpoint, I believe I was put there to operate the department and was very disappointed."


Link here

In other words, "How dare the American people be given full notice of this!"

Thats a good take on it, and could possibly be right. Mad cow disease costs billions of dollars (around 5 billion for canada so far)

Oh well, at least the new found united states cases DID NOT come from canada.

Yes Mad Cow is alive and Doing well.
What concerns me would be, how many of those sick little Devils popped by the guards?

Keep in mind that as cruel as it seems, population control maybe in effect, but from what Government(s)?

Dallas
edit - terrible punctuation..

[edit on 24-6-2005 by Dallas]

Something I posted in a related thread just a few minutes ago, but something I'd like a bit wider opinion on...

I've lived in Japan for the last 5 years, and therefore (obviously) can't get US beef anymore, but when talking with my folks the other day, they had no idea that Japan and South Korea had banned US beef. I know that this is common knowledge in the ATS community in the states, but has it not really been mentioned in the mainstream media or are my parents just blithering FOX News idiots?

(BTW, yes we can get FOX News on this side of the pond, too, but I'll stick to the Beeb, thank you very much)

Oh ya, it's been mentioned many times over many months and Japan has had their air-tight inspectors in to see things first hand.

But what I don't undersatnd is why other Countries such as Canada must be Beef-Annexed by the US?

Dallas

The scary part is that humans can go decades after being infected before they show the first signs of symptoms. I think this could be a HUGE problem for the US. It could start tomorrow, or it could start 15 years from now. But I think the pooh is really gonna hit the fan sooner or later...

Absolutely !
You become Ill and die long after the preons invaded your body and then your Brain.

Great Point Rasputin13.

Dallas

COming from a family farm , it's o sad to see. But, really, it's the big factory farms that are causing this. It's just unnatural to have carnivorous cattle. Animal protein should be banned to feeding animals in the states, plain and simple.

Sad truth is, though, you'll have a few break the law, and we'll a ll suffer,.

Anybody know if there is any tests that would show if someone has eaten any mad cow? And if so is there anybody working on a treatment or cure? I know this can lie dormant for a very long time. Anyone know of any human cases ? And if so how long this person had the disease before the symptoms became noticable?
Thanks bunches

Very good questions. Preons can apparently even live through fire. As for the diagnosis it's now reported Alzeimer disease is the condition and diagnosis for Human EPD.
But now, or lately, the scientists working on the answers are saying there are not any pre-diagnosis or cures.
Except don't feed the cattle - cattle. Reminds me of a movie I recently bought Soylent Green, with Heston and Robinson (his last role).

Dallas

people have to understand that you can only contract mad cow disease by eating certain parts of an infected animal, ie brain, spinal chord.

proper techniques should eliminate most chances of this.

2nd, it takes years and years for this disease to actually, "come out" in animals. most beef cattle are slaughtered far before the disease takes place.

most cases, canada and united states alike, have been found in dairy cattle that NEVER make it for human consumption.

yes this is a deadly disease, but with proper control, it can be beat.

another thing i should add. i was thinking of another thread, but nobody seems to read them or even care when its about agriculture.

the thing is that now there are bans for feeding cattle,... well cattle.

BUT animals are fed numerous things, and other animals have no bans similar to this. cattle can be fed resteraunt plate waste !

if anything, please remember that more than likely, its not the small farmers doing this. its the massive groups that ruin it for everyone.

believe me, the last thing a small farmer wants is to be the heart of the problem.

in my opinion many of the bird viruses are far more deadly than bse.

Whilst I do not eat meat and think we shouldn’t eat it anyway I do understand that others have a differing viewpoint. I say this only to disclose my hand.

The point of my message is this, if you stuff around with the natural order of nature you will end up paying the price. Cows were not meant to eat animal by-products and be pumped full of chemicals. If you MUST consume animals then they have a right to be treated humanely and that means eating grass, grazing in fields and living a stress free life – what little they have. It doesn’t mean eating other animals and being turned into walking chemical factories.

Yet again greed and the push to feed farm animals as cheaply as you can, fatten them up as quickly as you can and send them to slaughter in record time has back fired. Now the human population is starting to pay the price for their greed.

This whole sad event makes me so damned angry.

Originally posted by AWingAndASigh

Yep. But they are saying it was a cow that was blocked from the food chain.

Considering the fact that only a small portion of the beef in the US is tested, how many that weren't tested do you think might BE in the food supply?

This will have some bad economic effects, too, since every country in the world will now ban our beef (rightly so, but still ...).

Thanks, Canada.

You honestly beleive its all on Canada here? I think you need to do a little more looking before you lay any blame, including on the farmer that had the cow to begin with. There is so much back and forth trade with animals and even feed between these two countries, that we are mutually responsible. So suck it up, or go vegetarian. If it wasn't for YOU, maybe the NHL would still be playing games, and the beer wouldn't be so watered down, and the porn wouldn't be so censored, and the rest of the world wouldn't call me an American in their countries because I speak english.

And as for you people that won't eat beef anymore, I think its been proven that you really can't get the human form of BSE (mad cow disease) without eating the brain or spinal tissues of the animal. So just cut back on the brain eating for a while, or eat the grey matter of some other animal if thats what it takes. If you kill you cattle industry, many of your states are going to be in for VERY hard times, and the economic impact will reverberate across your entire country.

[edit on 25-6-2005 by Torus]