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I have never attcked anyone personally with insults and degrading remarks. That kind of behavior is completly below me. But I do, and will continue to air my position on the brotherhood, not from what I read on the net, but from what those 33rd brothers who have told me about what goes on. I trust them!
Freemasonry has as one of its premises that you must believe in a supreme being. I have also met some great Athiests. This is the height of arrogance and predjudice. The Athiest is not bound by any religious brainwashing / dogma and can therefore see life without binders. But masonry chooses to overlook this asset in searching for the truth.
The masons I have spoken with have also agreed that because of the wording of "Tollorance", Satanists and luciferians are allowed to enter because there supreme being is acceped. So I consider some of these stories to be based in fact, not Troll mongering. And since the pricipal masons on this board do not know the people involved in these stories they can once again only reitirate the masonic dogma, not fact. As the old line goes, just the facts mam, just the facts.
Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
But I do, and will continue to air my position on the brotherhood, not from what I read on the net, but from what those 33rd brothers who have told me about what goes on. I trust them!
I do not trust anyone who thinks they can speak for all the brothers because I know as a fact it is impossible to do so. You can only spout a dogma that is not practiced by all the masons, therefor, these statments are irrelavent. It is abserd to even consider speaking for thousands of brothers you dont know personally.
Freemasonry has as one of its premises that you must believe in a supreme being. I have also met some great Athiests. This is the height of arrogance and predjudice.
The Athiest is not bound by any religious brainwashing / dogma and can therefore see life without binders. But masonry chooses to overlook this asset in searching for the truth.
So I consider some of these stories to be based in fact, not Troll mongering. And since the pricipal masons on this board do not know the people involved in these stories they can once again only reitirate the masonic dogma, not fact. As the old line goes, just the facts mam, just the facts.
To be fair, balanced, and truely honest, you MUST take the good with the bad.
The carpet will only hold so much dirt, just ask the Catholic church!
I will continue to judge a person for who they are, not by the associations they keep. And, I will also continue to judge a person by what they do, and not by what they say.
I will live my life by morals beliefes, not by politics!
And I will never have complete tolorance to accept evil as the accepted norm because a brotherhood says its okay!
Originally posted by Majestic12
I never believe any information about Anti - Masonry on the net.
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
Some masons have enormous power, some have none. Don't need a bloodhound to follow where this trail leads...
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
senrak
As they are to you, so you are to them.
You insult their inteligence and label them as you see fit, they do the same.
They probably think y'all are the ones working in shifts and dragging out the 'same tired' defenses.
To you, they're the trolls, but to them, you fill that role. You and your gang roll up on every related thread and unload with full barrage. They perceive this as stonewalling, you perceive it as defense of your values. They see obfuscation, so do you, you see unrelenting ignorance, and they of course accuse you and your brothers of it daily.
So don't pretend for a minute you're any different than your enemies. Y'all are inseperable.
Originally posted by Majestic12
Read any article or statement of Anti - Masonry on the net and you will know what I mean. I am very much open - minded when it comes to serious topics like this, but I have no tolerance for ludicrous aligations and blatant speculation.
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
Intrepid
Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and amazing power corrupts most of the time.
Those with power (money, influence, fearlessness) are more susceptible to certain twists of logic that make compassion superfluous.
So the more power a man has, the more likely he is to be corrupt. Most times, in my experience, the corruption starts after a slip, some loss of power. It's a desperate attempt to regain that which was lost. That's usually what starts people walking on the dark side, so to speak.
Originally posted by Majestic12
[QUOTE]Cool.
Closed mind.
Duly noted.
Thanks. [/QUOTE]
And I am close - minded?
Originally posted by humbled_one
like any massive organization, you have those who believe and practice something and they may not have any "evil" intentions, but then you may have those higher up that may indeed have "evil" intentions.