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"The Celestial Virgin which thus becomes the Mother of Gods and Devils at one and the same time; for she is the ever-loving beneficent Deity...but in antiquity and reality Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is divine and terrestial Light, 'the Holy Ghost' and "Satan' at one and the same time." page 539 (Volume?)
"Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the son of the morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with it's splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not! Morals and Dogma page 321
taken from freemasonry.bcy.ca...
Not always.
The name Lucifer was applied to Satan by St. Jerome and then to the demon of sinful pride by Milton in Paradise Lost. This was a fanciful development of an original reference confused in translation. The single reference to Lucifer in the Christian Bible is found in Isaiah 14:12. It was not, in context, a reference to Satan.
"Lucifer" is the term originally used by the Romans to refer to the planet Venus when that planet was west of the sun and hence rose before the sun in the morning, thereby being the morning star.
The word "Satan" is from a Hebrew word, "Saithan", meaning adversary or enemy.
In literature and poetry, Lucifer, as a reference to a light-bringer, is often used as a metaphor for knowledge, wisdom, or learning.
A more complete explanation can be found at: freemasonry.bcy.ca...
Deception is a strong element in Freemasonry. The Masonic Hierarchy intentionally misleads lower degree Masons.
Many freemasons go no further than the Master Mason level (3rd level). However, those that press on to study for the rituals of the higher levels of the York or Scottish rites soon learn that there are mysteries which those at the lower levels are not permitted to know...
When a freemason reaches the 31st level they are informed that the true name of God is Lucifer.
Originally posted by eudaimonia
Below are quotes written by high level Masons praising Lucifer:
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'The Book Of Black Magic' by Arthur Edward Waite 33°
"First Conjuration Addressed to Emperor Lucifer. Emperor Lucifer, Master and Prince of Rebellious Spirits, I adjure thee to leave thine abode, in what-ever quarter of the world it may be situated and come hither to communicate with me. I command and I conjure thee in the Name of the Mighty Living God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost, to appear without noise and without ...." page 244
Emperor Lucifer, Master and Prince of Rebellious Spirits, I adjure thee to leave thine
abode, in whatsoever quarter of the world it may be situated, and come hither to
communicate with me. I command and I conjure thee in the Name of the Mighty living
God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost, to appear without noise and without any evil smell, to
respond in a clear and intelligible voice, point by Point, to all that I shall ask thee, failing
which, thou shall be most surely compelled to obedience by the Power of the divine
ADONAY, ELOIM, ARIEL, JEHOVAM, TAGLA, MATHON, and by the whole
hierarchy of superior intelligences, who shall constrain thee against thy will. Venité,
Venité! Submiritillor Lucifuge, or eternal torment shall overwhelm thee, by the great
Power of this Blasting Rod. In subito.
Later, the Lodge reopened; conferring the Master Mason Degree on Éliphas Lévi on August 21, 1861. The following month Lévi was called upon to give a keynote address on the Mysteries of Initiation; a brother, Mr. Ganeval having wanted to present some observations on what had been just said, Eliphas Lévi protested and left the meeting. Caubet tried the following day to make him reconsider his decision; Lévi refused and did not reappear again in Lodge.
"I ceased being a freemason, at once, because the freemasons, excommunicated by the Pope, did not believe in tolerating Catholicism; I thus separated from them to protect my freedom of conscience and to avoid their reprisals, perhaps excusable, if not legitimate, but certainly inconsequential, because the essence of Freemasonry is the tolerance of all beliefs." - The Book of the Wise Ones, Posthumous Works. Paris, Chacornac, 1912, in-8; p. 13.
Originally posted by eudaimonia
This deity that Lower Level Masons speak of have no idea...
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Originally posted by eudaimonia
[...]Below are quotes written by high level Masons[...]
Eliphas Levi [...]Helena Petrovna Blavatsky [...]Albert Pike 33°
Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explainations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be mislead
Originally posted by Eyeofhorus
I've said it before and I've said it again. Lucifer is representative of Venus, which is symblic of the unversal balance (morning star/evening star). You blatantly take these quotes out of context. And you give credit to these "experts" who really have no experience with the in-depth teachings of masonic rituals (of which the devil is not a part).
"The Celestial Virgin which thus becomes the Mother of Gods and Devils at one and the same time; for she is the ever-loving beneficent Deity...but in antiquity and reality Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is divine and terrestial Light, 'the Holy Ghost' and "Satan' at one and the same time." page 539 (Volume?)
The celestial being (venus, represents the sacred feminine) It is the morning star for half of the year and the evening star for the other half. Lucifer (morning star), and hecifer (sp?, evening star) or something (I don't have the text in my hands right now)
It is symbolically representative of the great mysteries of masonry, the unversal balance. Masons uses symbols, that when taken out of context can look like they hide some ominous meaning. Pike uses a diffrent literary styling, and he is a master of arcane text and language. He uses dialect and words, that may confuse and bewilder the most ineligent of us.
"Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the son of the morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with it's splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not! Morals and Dogma page 321
This quote has been butchered, clearly if you read the paragraphs before and after this quote, you would see that he is not talking about satan. He is talking about Venus.
Lucifer means something totally diffreent than Satan. This has also been addressed many times over in the secret societies section
mason also learns that Lucifer, doesn't mean satan, but rather is a symbol of venus.
Originally posted by eudaimonia
1) Superior Masons deliberately lie to their fellow Masons, as those Masons "deserve to be mislead"
2) Explanations given to 95% of all Masons are wrong. Listen to this quote from a Masonic author, Carl Claudy: "Cut through the outer shell and find a meaning; cut through that meaning and find another; under it, if you dig deep enough, you may find a third, a fourth -- who shall say how many teachings?" You have been lied to, as we demonstrate in our many articles. Finally, remember Albert Pike's bold assertion in Morals & Dogma, that "Masonry is identical to the ancient Mysteries ", which means that all their teachings in all their books are precisely the same as the Ancient, Pagan, Satanic Mysteries.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
You are a fool, sir, for completely misinterpreting and quoting out of context. Pike, in his writings, referred to many ancient religions and cults, of which he quted and described. All you have done is taken thos descriptions and used them for Freemasonry. Nice try, but it won't work around us here who Deny Ignorance.
Also, the "inner meanings" and secret teachings of Freemasonry that masonic authors such as Maudy and Hall refer to are nothing more than the esoteric teachings of Freemasonry. This is someting not all masons get into, which is why they say it is a fraternity within a fraternity.
Do your research before posting what thousands of people have, and failed, many times before you.
Originally posted by eudaimonia
Masonary in all it's forms, whether good or bad, has no place in our society, and you will soon realize that.
Originally posted by eudaimonia
Masonary in all it's forms, whether good or bad, has no place in our society, and you will soon realize that.
The Eastern Star is a Freemason division for women. Satanic symbol for the Order that trains its young, impressionable girls.
Originally Posted by EYEOFHORUS
Masons uses symbols, that when taken out of context can look like they hide some ominous meaning.
O.P. by senrak
FINALLY something we agree on. So why are YOU taking the symbols out of context and making them APPEAR to hide some ominous meaning? Shame on you.
(me again) Pike uses a diffrent literary styling, and he is a master of arcane text and language. He uses dialect and words, that may confuse and bewilder the most ineligent of us.
O.P. by senrak
Yes, and it obviously confuses other people too. (Know what I mean?)
quote: (me again)
mason also learns that Lucifer, doesn't mean satan, but rather is a symbol of venus.
O.P. by senrak
Uhm...i thought you said we DID learn that Lucifer was Satan...er..was it God...er...the Holy Spook...? I forget...
These are from my post not eudomania, which is probably why you would tend to agree with them. If you can't see which is mine and which is his, my information is the stuff that is not blasphemous lies, that has sources to back it up. The misinformation in the original post is almost scary.
Originally posted by Eyeofhorus
Uhhhhh, senrak...
You kind of mixed up my post and the post of eudaimonia.
We have the same background color.
Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
A picture is worth a thousand words. I just got back from a little sight seeing excursion and what do you think I saw?
Originally posted by Trinityman
Are you a gullible fool with nothing better to do than malign a worthy and laudable institution, or an exploitable simpleton being manipulated by more malevolent creatures with a hidden agenda to discredit an ancient institution dedicated purely and simply to the improvement of the individual?
Which is it?
Originally Posted by All Seeing Eye
Reminds me of a dog marking its territory.................