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The driver and his friends were not hit, but many Iraqis do not survive casual encounters with US soldiers. It is very easy to be accidentally killed in Iraq. US soldiers treat everybody as a potential suicide bomber. If they are right they have saved their lives and if they are wrong they face no penalty.
It was obvious to many American officers from an early stage in the conflict that the Pentagon's claim that it did not count civilian casualties was seen by many Iraqis as proof that the US did not care about how many of them were killed. The failure to take Iraqi civilian dead into account was particularly foolish in a culture where relatives of the slain are obligated by custom to seek revenge.
US soldiers are notorious in Iraq for departing immediately after a skirmish, taking their own casualties but sometimes leaving damaged vehicles. They would not have time to find out how many Iraqis were killed or injured.
US firepower, designed to combat the Soviet army, cannot be used in built up areas without killing or injuring civilians. Nevertheless, a study published in the Lancet saying that 100,000 civilians have died in Iraq appears to be too high. But the lack of definitive figures continues to dehumanise the uncounted Iraqi dead. As Dr Richard Garfield, a professor of nursing at Columbia University and an author of the Lancet report, wrote: "We are still fighting to record the Armenian genocide. Until people have names and are counted they don't exist in a policy sense."
Originally posted by deltaboy
not much we can do about it, we dont have the manpower to count the dead even if we try. and other non profit organizations arent even trying even those that really care.
Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Well, well well, another colorful story by Souljah.....how nice.
As usual American soldiers are riding 70 year old ladies like "Donkeys"...shooting up Iraqi towns like "cowboys" and stealing their oil.
Look in this instance that cars engine was shot up, but the occupants were not hurt. Your "colorful" article mentions that "many" Iraqis do not survive casual encounters with US soldiers....if that was the case millions of Iraqis would be dead.
The suicide bombers do far more damage than US troops, but you never seem to condem them Souljah.
This is a nice peice of fiction tho and I enjoyed reading it.
Originally posted by Souljah
The Most Deadly Place in the entire World, where even soldiers from the best equipped and armed army of the World, the US Army, are caught in an endless urban guerrilla, which they are not really deisgned to fight - with all that heavy equipment and heavy weapons.
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
You haven't talked to anyone over there recently have you? Nope, didn't think so
Seriously, talk to anyone over there. Yes there are still hot spots, but it's honestly not as bad as you're making it out to be. At least that's the word I'm getting from people over there. Others I know who have talked to the soldiers over there are saying the same thing....
Originally posted by marg6043
I find very disturbing and very questionable that civilian casualties in Iraq, including women and children are so none important to the "war on terror" as to completely disregard their existence and death in the same "war" that is supposed to preserve freedom.
They should be remember, obviously not by American standards but I tell you their own people and families knows who they are.
Nice thread Souljah, some times this happy war people in the US needs to be reminded the price of a bad prepared war as the one in Iraq.
Everyday Iraqis die and so American soldiers, but we already won and declared victory.
dont forget the deaths of foreign fighters. they have a voice too u know.
The green zone must die. On that point everyone agrees: the Americans who created it, the foreigners who shelter in it, the parliamentarians who sit in it and, not least, the insurgents who bomb it. This fortress by the Tigris, home to the US and British embassies and Iraqi government offices, is an unloved, unlovely complex created two years ago as the nerve centre of the occupation.
Originally posted by Souljah
either shot and killed by US soldiers, thinking they are suicide bombers, or blown away by a suicide bomber targeting the US tropps and Iraqi Police. The Health Ministry in Baghdad did come to a number of 17,384 casualties in the Iraqi Body Count. But the problem is that most of the Iraqis die obscurely, and it is dangerous for any reporters to go and investigate.
Originally posted by IncognitoGhostman
I want to start this off by saying that I'm an American Soldier fighting on the ground in Iraq.