BREAKING: Israel agrees to 4-day ceasefire, hostage and prisoner exchange

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ToneD

Why are you defending hamas?

Why are you defending the occupation of the Palestinian people and justifying the innocent civilian deaths?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ToneD

Why are you defending hamas?

Why are you defending the occupation of the Palestinian people and justifying the innocent civilian deaths?

We're taking hostages, not your strawman.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ToneD

Why are you defending hamas?

Why are you defending the occupation of the Palestinian people and justifying the innocent civilian deaths?

We're taking hostages, not your strawman.

lol strawman deflection tactic - getting old db.

If we're talking hostages or captives then we should be discussing children taken and imprisoned by Israel. Care to discuss these abused children captives/prisoners too?

www.savethechildren.org.uk...

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ToneD

Why are you defending hamas?

Why are you defending the occupation of the Palestinian people and justifying the innocent civilian deaths?

We're taking hostages, not your strawman.

lol strawman deflection tactic - getting old db.

If we're talking hostages or captives then we should be discussing children taken and imprisoned by Israel. Care to discuss these abused children captives/prisoners too?

www.savethechildren.org.uk...

Nice.

Start a thread on it.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ToneD

Why are you defending hamas?

Why are you defending the occupation of the Palestinian people and justifying the innocent civilian deaths?

We're taking hostages, not your strawman.

lol strawman deflection tactic - getting old db.

If we're talking hostages or captives then we should be discussing children taken and imprisoned by Israel. Care to discuss these abused children captives/prisoners too?

www.savethechildren.org.uk...

Nice.

Start a thread on it.

You stated we are discussing hostages well captives fall into that same category, so let's discuss it.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ToneD

Why are you defending hamas?

Why are you defending the occupation of the Palestinian people and justifying the innocent civilian deaths?

We're taking hostages, not your strawman.

lol strawman deflection tactic - getting old db.

If we're talking hostages or captives then we should be discussing children taken and imprisoned by Israel. Care to discuss these abused children captives/prisoners too?

www.savethechildren.org.uk...

Nice.

Start a thread on it.

You stated we are discussing hostages well captives fall into that same category, so let's discuss it.

Nope.

Thread drift, conflating the two is dishonest and downright evil as well.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Why are you defending . . .

Anti-apartheid.
In all honesty, and to put things into perspective,
Can you tell us how you
really feel about Nelson Mandela ??

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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JinMI

WTF!

I'd say all hostages released or every palestinian is a walking corpse.

In 5. . . 4. . . 3. . . . 2. . . .

So every Palestinian?

What you are supporting is genocide.

I hope one day you will change your mind and realize how evil statements like this are.

You have stated in many posts that you believe supporters of terrorism also deserve to die.
But yet you are totally comfortable advocating an entire group of people die for acts of some of it's members.

I'm going to treat you with more compassion than you show to other people and I hope others do to.

But back to the topic.

I don't it's a good idea to negotiate for hostages but it's difficult not to.

I also don't think children should be held prisoner. Geez..... Most for throwing stones.
Just as bad if not worse than holding adult hostages.

Never knew about the child prisoners until Israel started bombing.

a reply to: Daughter2v2

From a historical standpoint, I had no sympathy for Germans in WWII.

Nor did I have sympathy for the Japanese during WWII.

The reason I come off as harsh is I see the people defending the "poor palestinians" as the same as people defending Japanese and Germans in WWII.

Too many people are all, "Er Mer Gerd! Erkupation! Poor Gaza!"

I see them as the enemy since I stand with Israel.

*shrugs*

post deux

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ToneD

Why are you defending hamas?

Why are you defending the occupation of the Palestinian people and justifying the innocent civilian deaths?

We're taking hostages, not your strawman.

lol strawman deflection tactic - getting old db.

If we're talking hostages or captives then we should be discussing children taken and imprisoned by Israel. Care to discuss these abused children captives/prisoners too?

www.savethechildren.org.uk...

Nice.

Start a thread on it.

You stated we are discussing hostages well captives fall into that same category, so let's discuss it.

Nope.

Thread drift, conflating the two is dishonest and downright evil as well.

Nope. None of my posts have been removed. Just another deflection tactic - desperate I might add - to shift to the one narrative.

a reply to: quintessentone

From a historical standpoint, I had no sympathy for Germans in WWII.

Nor did I have sympathy for the Japanese during WWII.

The reason I come off as harsh is I see the people defending the "poor palestinians" as the same as people defending Japanese and Germans in WWII.

Too many people are all, "Er Mer Gerd! Erkupation! Poor Gaza!"

I see them as the enemy since I stand with Israel.

*shrugs*

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

From a historical standpoint, I had no sympathy for Germans in WWII.

Nor did I have sympathy for the Japanese during WWII.

The reason I come off as harsh is I see the people defending the "poor palestinians" as the same as people defending Japanese and Germans in WWII.

Too many people are all, "Er Mer Gerd! Erkupation! Poor Gaza!"

I see them as the enemy since I stand with Israel.

*shrugs*

I get you exactly, you stand with Israel, we get it.

I see both Hamas and Israel leaders as fanatical warmongers and their interests are so f##d up at this point in their history I don't see any way forward. Nobody has the right answers here to solve this conflict.

I am anti-war and I am horrified at the breaking of International Laws and I stand for a ceasefire and getting rid of both Hamas and Israeli zionist leaders and government because it's not working, they are both failures at protecting their people. It's now about saving all innocent civilian lives for me.

a reply to: quintessentone

Zionism definition

Zi·on·ism
[ˈzīəˌnizəm]
NOUN
a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann.


Bold is mine.

And I also get it that you and others are anti-zionism.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Zionism definition

Zi·on·ism
[ˈzīəˌnizəm]
NOUN
a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann.


Bold is mine.

And I also get it that you and others are anti-zionism.

I am not against Zionism I am against these right-wing extremist Isreali leaders, who BTW just overthrew their judicial system to make sure they have absolute freedom to do whatever they want to do, and have only their interests as a priority

ETA

Although I am reading different meanings or the changing of the meaning of zionism throughout history than what you posted.

a reply to: quintessentone

You said. . .

I am anti-war and I am horrified at the breaking of International Laws and I stand for a ceasefire and getting rid of both Hamas and Israeli zionist leaders and government because it's not working, they are both failures at protecting their people.

Bold is mine.

Hey, I have no problem saying that I'm a Zionist.

I guess there are people that can't or won't say it.

*shrugs*

For me, I think Israel deserves to exist as a sovereign nation.

But others obviously disagree.

*shrugs again*

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

You said. . .

I am anti-war and I am horrified at the breaking of International Laws and I stand for a ceasefire and getting rid of both Hamas and Israeli zionist leaders and government because it's not working, they are both failures at protecting their people.

Bold is mine.

Hey, I have no problem saying that I'm a Zionist.

I guess there are people that can't or won't say it.

*shrugs*

For me, I think Israel deserves to exist as a sovereign nation.

But others obviously disagree.

*shrugs again*

I agree Israel should exist as a sovereign state but so does Palestine. Can they do it sharing that land? I hope so in the future but Hamas and those warmongering Israeli leaders have to go.

a reply to: quintessentone

Obviously not because the Gaza folks won't recognize Israel as a sovereign nation.

Give them a call since you support them so much.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Obviously not because the Gaza folks won't recognize Israel as a sovereign nation.

Give them a call since you support them so much.

That lack of recognition goes both ways so not much point in discussing this further with you when you only see the one side.