US DoD issued a contract for Covid research in Ukraine 3 months before Covid existed

a reply to: Salander

Is this false….

Fact Check: Defense Department Did NOT Award Contract For 'COVID-19 Research' In Ukraine 3 Months Before Virus Was Known


No crystal ball

So, how did the DOD know about COVID-19 before the rest of the world? It didn't. The original contract from November 12, 2019, was modified months later to include COVID research. In an April 20, 2022, email to Lead Stories, the DOD's Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA),

leadstories.com... rus-was-known.html

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Salander

These guys?

November 2019 to Labyrinth Global Health INC


Labyrinth is a women-owned small business with deep expertise and a proven track record supporting initiatives for scientific and medical advancement.

We are a multicultural and international organization with offices in four countries and a team of experts with diverse backgrounds and competencies, including microbiology, virology, global health, emerging infectious disease nursing, medical anthropology, field epidemiology, clinical research, and health information systems.

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Any proof of the November 2019 contract than a hack website?


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——can you name what day the contract was awarded?

Is that the same DOD that manipulated the DMED database after it showed there were 10x more reportable health conditions in 2021 than in 2020? That one?

a reply to: Salander

So much deceit, fraud, corruption across both government and private industry.

Its overwhelming.

What's most important to investigate and correct first, then second, then third, then fourth, then....while punishing the perpetrators along the way?

a reply to: Salander

Hmm... Interesting . What Ever Happened to the News of the Exact Origins of the Covid-19 Virus First Developed in that Lab in North Carolina Back in 2017 ?

originally posted by: ATruGod

originally posted by: chr0naut

I suppose I was looking for the simplest reasonable explanation (Ockhams razor type thing), rather than a kook-level ultra-conspiracy one.

You realize how silly You look, occam's razor? You mean the fact they did simulations of this exact "scenario" a year (or 2) before it happened... seems pretty reasonable they did exactly what they "simulated". Nobodies gotten rich off this. Nobodies affected Elections over it. Nobodies controlled their population (or still are) over this.

Occams razor this... How the hell do Governments keep Simulating events that magically happened While or shortly after the simulation?

Do you think that people going into a situation of live fire, should wait until they are killed before putting on a flak jacket? Of course that is not rational. There is a high degree of risk and it is sensible to try and anticipate that.

The rise of a coronavirus disease that could become pandemic was highly likely. To have that sort of risk and to have done nothing about it is fairly stupid.

As it was, numerous people in power chose to do almost nothing about the danger, and to ignore the planned precautions, even when the threat became actual - now that is stupid!

Those same people that on one hand speak of the conspiracy to propagate the disease, are also the same ones who deny that the disease is a problem. What's with that? Yet here we are with over 1 million dead from the disease in the USA, that's about 1 in every 330 people, and STILL they deny it. Now that is stupid!

And, governments try and make reasonable guesses about threats to large numbers of citizens and to mitigate those threats if possible. If some of those threats become actual risks, then that is just statistical inevitability. Only the very stupid can't understand that simple explanation.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: chr0naut

The dodgy date could be a simple typo.

This gave me a Laugh mate come on now you can do better than that .

Perhaps Black & Veitch wanted to know how its isolated Ukraine located employees should act in regard to COVID, in a country where vaccines, tests, and even government response to the virus, were not at the same level as in the US?

Perhaps they (much after the fact) made a claim for expenses from the DOD and simply got the month or year wrong, and 'whoever' was doing the data entry at the DOD did not realize that the date was too early?

That sort of stuff can happen.

I suppose I was looking for the simplest reasonable explanation (Ockhams razor type thing), rather than a kook-level ultra-conspiracy one.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: ATruGod

originally posted by: chr0naut

I suppose I was looking for the simplest reasonable explanation (Ockhams razor type thing), rather than a kook-level ultra-conspiracy one.

You realize how silly You look, occam's razor? You mean the fact they did simulations of this exact "scenario" a year (or 2) before it happened... seems pretty reasonable they did exactly what they "simulated". Nobodies gotten rich off this. Nobodies affected Elections over it. Nobodies controlled their population (or still are) over this.

Occams razor this... How the hell do Governments keep Simulating events that magically happened While or shortly after the simulation?

And governments try and make reasonable guesses about threats to large numbers of citizens and to mitigate those threats if possible. If some of those threats become actual risks, then that is just statistical inevitability. Only the very stupid can't understand that simple explanation.

The 'gubment' and big pharma never lie! They are always 100% honest in your world!

Conspiracy theorist = someone who questions the government. We would never want to do that.

a reply to: Salander

So with this being the official truth, why does United States Government data show that the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) awarded a contract on the 12th November 2019 to Labyrinth Global Health INC. for ‘COVID-19 Research’, at least one month before the alleged emergence of the novel coronavirus,

If what that site claims is true:

There were already early indications that a previously unknown coronavirus pathogen had emerged, although degree/infectiousness unknown. DOD would be aware of this, but monitoring.

Since the year was 2019, and the virus is a coronavirus, labeling it as such makes sense, scientifically.

This data suggests that more was going on in Ukraine than in Wuhan.

That's why the first outbreak was in Ukraine. Oh, I mean, Wuhan. Your suggestion is highly illogical.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: ATruGod

originally posted by: chr0naut

I suppose I was looking for the simplest reasonable explanation (Ockhams razor type thing), rather than a kook-level ultra-conspiracy one.

You realize how silly You look, occam's razor? You mean the fact they did simulations of this exact "scenario" a year (or 2) before it happened... seems pretty reasonable they did exactly what they "simulated". Nobodies gotten rich off this. Nobodies affected Elections over it. Nobodies controlled their population (or still are) over this.

Occams razor this... How the hell do Governments keep Simulating events that magically happened While or shortly after the simulation?

And governments try and make reasonable guesses about threats to large numbers of citizens and to mitigate those threats if possible. If some of those threats become actual risks, then that is just statistical inevitability. Only the very stupid can't understand that simple explanation.

The 'gubment' and big pharma never lie! They are always 100% honest in your world!

And the opposition to the government never lie, either?

LOL

Conspiracy theorist = someone who questions the government. We would never want to do that.

If all branches of all governments across the world, and thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of government workers are in on trying to deceive you, and if they are the only ones collecting the mass data on things, how could you even know it? From where would you source your alternate verifiable data?

LOL

So. DOD data interpreted from a hack site is only credible when convenient.


Again..

Is this false….

Fact Check: Defense Department Did NOT Award Contract For 'COVID-19 Research' In Ukraine 3 Months Before Virus Was Known


No crystal ball

So, how did the DOD know about COVID-19 before the rest of the world? It didn't. The original contract from November 12, 2019, was modified months later to include COVID research. In an April 20, 2022, email to Lead Stories, the DOD's Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA),

leadstories.com... rus-was-known.html

The problem with Salander is the poster regurgitates anything like nukes used at the WTC or ignores Russian backed separatists shot down MH 17 without any cross referencing. He sees something anti USA, goes all goo goo gaga, and runs with it without actually trying to substantiate the claim.


It’s not a matter that Salander questions. It’s a matter the poster never questions what fits their conformation bias. And it hurts people that want the government held accountable for its actual crimes. Crap like this is a distraction, and doesn’t help.

originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: Salander

So with this being the official truth, why does United States Government data show that the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) awarded a contract on the 12th November 2019 to Labyrinth Global Health INC. for ‘COVID-19 Research’, at least one month before the alleged emergence of the novel coronavirus,

There were already early indications that a previously unknown coronavirus pathogen had emerged, although degree/infectiousness unknown. DOD would be aware of this, but monitoring.

Since the year was 2019, and the virus is a coronavirus, labeling it as such makes sense, scientifically.

This data suggests that more was going on in Ukraine than in Wuhan.

That's why the first outbreak was in Ukraine. Oh, I mean, Wuhan. Your suggestion is highly illogical.

I think also that saying the DOD had a contract with Labyrinth is a bit of a misnomer. The contract was between the DOD and Black & Veitch. B&V then made a costs claim for reimbursement.

I think there were more than one lab working with this Covid. These scientists did go visit other labs on occasion....including Wuhan. and I read that someone from Wuhan was somewhere in Europe before this virus was discovered to have escaped. What I read before is that some Lab in France may have had an earlier virus incident than the one in Wuhan...like four months before it was discovered in Wuhan. Also there were mutations in the virus in Italy that were found in their virus there which means it was in Italy before December of nineteen.

These labs are all over the place, and people go visit other labs and labs send stuff to other labs. Lab leaks may not be common but they do happen pretty much every year.

a reply to: 727Sky

December 2019 before they knew what COVID was around here..

Same time we had it.

Its all a funny coincidence, go back to chewing your cud. Nothing to see here.

a reply to: chr0naut

Occams razor would imply that taking into consideration how brazen the lies have become over the past few years any information counter narrative needs to be taken very seriously as it has become a proven formula that the opposite is more often than not true.


What you're doing is eating Occams shaving cream.

Good faith in your institutions is not a virtue.

a reply to: TacoLoco75

Klaus Schwab's father was a Nazi, The Bushes financed the Nazi party, and America has been infiltrated by Fascists, all this is just another strategy to take over. So it's not much of a surprise that they are involved in Ukraine. They did it under the red scare cunning plan.All the jobs these days seem to have bosses that don't give a # about your personal privacy or basic rights. The only reason they still exist is that deluded fools think that they will get special treatment by espousing their aims. Since that's a good proportion of the population they won't be going away anytime soon.

Anyone remember the vaping deaths in 2019 right before COVID-19 became a media sensation?
The vaping deaths that seem strangely similar to Covid and you no longer hear about because of Covid.

Hmmmm….

a reply to: Cambury

There were reports that fragments of the virus were found in sewage in Italy in 2019, yes.

a reply to: 727Sky

In those early days, the website Veterans Today published a story claiming that the US participants in those Military Olympics games in Wuhan were a shady bunch and had spread the virus while there in Wuhan. Who knows?

a reply to: chr0naut

Thank you for repeating the Official Narrative.

Consistent propaganda seems your forte.