Originally posted by Souljah
Funny how I am quickly opposed by two "Undercover Masons",
Who are you calling "undercover?" I'm a PROUD Mason. One who doesn't like to be lied about.
clearly visible by their avatars, sebatwerk and senrak.
Oh, I see...it's "clearly visible" that we're "undercover"
Anyway, the appearance of the number 13 is closely connected to Illuminati.
Okej, you wanted more proof:
E.W. Bullinger writes: "As to the significance of thirteen, all are aware that it has come down to us as a number of ill-omen. Many superstitions
cluster around it, and various explanations are current concerning them. "Unfortunately, those who go backwards to find a reason seldom go back far
enough. The popular explanations do not, so far as we are aware, go further back than the Apostles. But we must go back to the first occurrence of the
number thirteen in order to discover the key to its significance. It occurs first in Gen. xiv. 4, where we read 'Twelve years they served
Chedorlaomer, and the thirteenth year they REBELLED.
Did that prove something...because if it did I missed it.
Is it any coincidence that the Masons consider this to be the most Masonically Correct Number?
Why it's not coincidence at all...it's a bare-faced lie.
It should also be noted that there are 33 titles in the Old Testament for the antichrist, while there are 13 in the New Testament?
Uhm....I'll have to get back with you as to whether that's correct or not...but even if it is...are we talking about 33 or 13???? There's a BIG
difference. 33, by the way, is ONLY significant to Masons who are members of the Scottish Rite which is a minority of them...
Also 13 is the number of death and rebirth, death and reincarnation, sacrifice, the Phoenix, the Christ (perfected soul imprisoned in matter), and the
transition from the old to the new.
Has NOTHING to do with Masons. ...or the thread for that matter...
On August 6, 1945 at 8:15 a.m. United States B-29 bomber Enola Gay, on Mission No. 13, dropped an atomic bomb called "Little Boy" on Hiroshima,
Japan near the 33rd Parallel. This was "Day One" of a new age, the Nuclear Age. To understand the change that took place, we must back up and
look at the importance of the number 13 from the formation of the United States to the atomic bomb's explosion in Hiroshima.
Rambling nonsensical rhetoric.....has NOTHING to do with this thread. In the appraisal business we call this "filler" ...and this is not even
very good filler....
In 1935, Paul Foster Case wrote:"Since the date, 1776, is placed on the bottom course of the pyramid [on the Great Seal], and since the number 13
has been so important in the history of the United States and in the symbols of the seal, it is not unreasonable to suppose that the thirteen courses
of the pyramid may represent thirteen time-periods of thirteen years each."
He said "it's not unreasonable to SUPPOSE" and "the pyramid MAY represent" ?????? Hmmmm... He didn't seem so sure of himself, did he.
...what with all that supposing going on...I thought we had FACTS here. I guess not.
The 13 time-periods of 13 years each equaled 169 years. From July 4, 1776 to July 4, 1945 equaled 169 years. From July 4, 1945 to August 6, 1945
(Hiroshima) was 33 days.
So you're saying the guys in 1776 KNEW about Hiroshima???? WOW Talk about psychics. Can you not see how SILLY all this nonsense is????
"President Kennedy was wounded in the exact three same spots as Hiram Abif,
Really??? Well that's funny because various rituals (there are TONS of 'em) have ol' Hiram being wounded in DIFFERENT places. Again, what in
the WORLD does THAT have to do with the guys who were hanging around in 1776 and with Hiroshima being bombed in 1945? This is NUTS!
who was murdered in the Masonic initiation,
No...he was murdered in King Solomon's Temple (allegorically....he really wasn't ever murdered at all....read the Hebrew Scriptures...called by some
"The Old Testament")
representing the persecution of the Templars on Friday, the 13th, in the year 1307,
Pure speculation. Never been proven. Personally I LIKE that theory...but it's just a theory. NO DOCUMENTED evidence to say that's
right....Masonic or otherwise.
where Hiram Abif is struck in the back, and in the throat, and in the head.
Better get that Masonic expose' out and re-read it. In NO ritual was he struck in the back. The ruffians accosted him from the front. They were
Dealey Plaza is just a very few short miles from the 33rd parallel.
I'll bet there are OTHER places there too! SO WHAT?????
The highest degree of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry,
NOPE NOPE NOPE Not the "highest" degree. A degree of the Masonic Scottish Rite. It has a higher number than any other, but the HIGHEST degree
is Master Mason (third degree) ...this has been OVERDISCUSSED here.
the Meritorious Degree,
NEVER heard it called that. It's called "Inspector General-Honorary" ...and HONORARY degree.
the Degree of the Illuminati, whose motto is "Ordo Ab Chao" or "Out of Chaos Comes Order" - which literally means if they break down the existing
structure and cause the population to cry out for order, they will emerge as the rulers and will have the world that they seek." United States
Presidents And The Masonic Power Structure.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Do you REALLY believe that crap??? We can hardly get our members to come to Lodge meetings...and you think there'll be a
"Masonic Power Structure" ????
Numbers 11, 13 and 33 are all connected to Freemasonary and Illuminati.
ATS won't let me say bull ( ) here...but that's what THAT statement is. 11? 13? Yeah, the Scottish Rite has a 33rd Degree, but the number
isn't of particular significance...nothing nefarious about it.
33 is a magical number for the Occult.
I'll take your word on that. But it has NOTHING to do with Masonry...and besides this silly thread started out talking about the number 13...now
we've veered off to 33??? Why? Is this overload of nonsensical information causing you to be unable to concentrate?
In David Yallop's book, In God's Name, which exposes the murder of the Pope who was in power for only 33 days, Freemasonry was a major issue.
According to Yallop, Pope John Paul I, Albino Luciani, was murdered because he was going to take drastic measures and make drastic changes within the
Funny. The Catholic Church has NO connection with Freemasonry...and that whole statement has NOTHING to do with the number 13 or the dollar bill.
And now we come to the Main American Mason (known to the world): Albert Pike
Oh Christ on a crutch! Not you too? Pike was the Grand Commander of the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite in the U.S.A. Canadian and
British Masons have hardly even HEARD of Pike yet the poor dead bastard gets credit for being "the Main American Mason known to the world"???
US lawyer, historian, general. Masonic author. Brig General, (Confederate Army). well-known Masonic author and composer of the ritual for the
concordant body, the Scottish Rite, Southern Jurisdiction, he was elected Sovereign Grand Commander of that body in 1859, an office he held until his
Composer of the Scottish Rite ritual huh? Interesting...the Scottish Rite was organized in 1801 and it's various rituals existed long before then.
Pike didn't BECOME a Scottish Rite Mason until the 1853.... Get your facts straight here.
The Main founder of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK).
Interesting indeed....and another lie. I'll bet ol' Nathan Bedford Forest wouldn't like you saying that. Pike wasn't even a MEMBER of the
Klan. Several say that he was...but NO ONE....(I'll repeat this in case you didn't understand) NO ONE has EVER given conclusive evidence that Pike
belonged to the Klan. NO ONE. There are NO DOCUMENTS. NO PROOF. PERIOD. i.e., You're saying so...doesn't make it so.
Albert Pike created the 33rd degree of Masonry.
More error. You really don't know how to do your homework do you?
Mitchell (one of the FOUNDERS of the Scottish Rite) became a 33rd Degree Mason in 1801. Pike was born in 1809. Do the math there....
More puke. Pike was a trinitarian Christian and a devout Episcopalian. That "luciferian" (whatever that is) nonsense came from the famous taxil
hoax...and has been discussed here over and over and over and over Do NOT be afraid to use the search function....unless you want to continue to
have NO credibility. If it will help see this link
and founder of the K.K.K.
Nope. Simply not true...see above.
The Ku Klux Klan is an organization which prided itself ( and still does) in the torture and murder of men for the color of their skin.
The Klan is a horrible organization. I'll give you one point for saying something true here. They're also not fond of Catholics and some other
This is Demonic in itself.
I'm not sure "demonic" is the word....but it's wrong, nonetheless...
So we have a confessed LUCIFERIAN (666) who created the 33rd degree of masonry and founded the KKK.
No we have a confessed Episcopalian Christian who was born 8 years AFTER the 33rd degree was created who was NEVER even a MEMBER of the Klan...let
alone the founder. Guess you're whole post here was a waste of time, huh? (At least a waste of anyone who READ it's time...)
K is the eleventh number of the Alphabet. In other words the KKK can be represented as 11, 11, 11. 11+11+11=33.
That's a BIG stretch....that makes absolutely ZERO sense and proves NOTHING. You should have your keyboard taken away from you for even typing that
So it is far more complicated than just a One Dollar Bill.
God, I'd say SO! Who'd have ever thought that Albert Pike could be so clever as to invent a degree of the Scottish Rite eight years before he was
even born, found an organization that he was never a member of and write all those rituals over 50 years before he became a member of the Scottish
Rite and drop a bomb on Hiroshima 54 years after he died and assassinate President Kennedy by shooting him....just like the 3 ruffians shot Hiram
WOW. The stuff I learn here.