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Originally posted by ThePunisher
Look at the number 1 now look at the 12 rays of light around it, 12+1=13.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
But when you are reading and quoting literature, for example, you need to understand the situation under which it was written. You can not change the meaning of a text simply because the world situation around it has changed. The original meaning is the ONLY meaning of a text.
Originally posted by Souljah
Man, I dont have a box of 1 $ Bills; all these photos I had to find on the Net!
Originally posted by yanchek
Originally posted by sebatwerk
But when you are reading and quoting literature, for example, you need to understand the situation under which it was written. You can not change the meaning of a text simply because the world situation around it has changed. The original meaning is the ONLY meaning of a text.
Interesting perspective.
I agree to some point. Maybe the qoute NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM on the dollar bill means exactly what it means. But maybe just maybe the makers of this money had a higher vision and knew something we do not. We werent there. And if you take in to account that the word situation have changed then It puts this quote in a new light so the original meaning has lost its originallity. Entertaining thought.
Originally posted by Souljah
Seems to me that, where there is a post about Freemasonary you are there too!
Are you on their payrole list, along with those two guys?
Originally posted by sebatwerk
But when the dollar bill was created, the thought of one unified world government was so completely unthinkable that i DOUBT anybody would have created that bill with that kind of foresight in mind.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
But when the dollar bill was created, the thought of one unified world government was so completely unthinkable that i DOUBT anybody would have created that bill with that kind of foresight in mind. What's more, do you think they thought that the dollar bill would still be around 250 years later?
It's, in a sense, a historical quote and therefore retains its historical meaning.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
It's a fraternity that has members! Therefore, we are members! Imagine that! Seriously, you can speculate and argue all you want... but in the end, nothing you say is true. You're trying too hard, grasping at straws, trying to find a connection that simply doesn't exist.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
But when the dollar bill was created, the thought of one unified world government was so completely unthinkable that i DOUBT anybody would have created that bill with that kind of foresight in mind. What's more, do you think they thought that the dollar bill would still be around 250 years later?
Originally posted by savannah
So what is the implication here? Was the US created with the plan of unifying the world? That seems to be what some here are saying. All of this was planned from the beginning by the NWO or whoever is running the show behind closed doors. How long has the US currency had these symbols on them?
Originally posted by Souljah
Who is running the Show? The guys at the top of the Pyramid; the shining eye, the Big Brother - I really dont know who is running the show but its a circle of people, that have ruled this planet for ages. They decide when and where wars start and they make profit out of them.
Originally posted by Souljah
Originally posted by sebatwerk
It's a fraternity that has members! Therefore, we are members! Imagine that! Seriously, you can speculate and argue all you want... but in the end, nothing you say is true. You're trying too hard, grasping at straws, trying to find a connection that simply doesn't exist.
Ofcourse you are memebers. You were not very hard to spot from the rest!
Ok, if I have nothing that is true, why dont you try and prove me other?
Where is your proof, saying that I am wrong? That I have posted lies?
I just see you denying and proving nothing.
[edit on 31/3/05 by Souljah]
Originally posted by Souljah
Originally posted by savannah
So what is the implication here? Was the US created with the plan of unifying the world? That seems to be what some here are saying. All of this was planned from the beginning by the NWO or whoever is running the show behind closed doors. How long has the US currency had these symbols on them?
How long?
The first one dollar bills were produced in 1862.
The front side contains, apart from the portrait of George Washington, the United States Treasury Seal. The current seal, adopted in 1968, consists of a scale on top, symbolizing justice; a key on the bottom, symbolizing authority; and a chevron with 13 stars in between, representing the original 13 colonies of the U.S.
Who is running the Show? The guys at the top of the Pyramid; the shining eye, the Big Brother - I really dont know who is running the show but its a circle of people, that have ruled this planet for ages. They decide when and where wars start and they make profit out of them.
Now Number 13 that appears on the One Dollar Note is just a reminder, a sign, a signature.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
YOU are the one that needs to prove the supposed conspiracies! You say that the NWO has controlled the planet for centuries, but i doubt you have ever seen any CONCLUSIVE evidence of the existance of such a group. I know for a fact that Freemasonry has nothing to do with any kind of global conspiracy, as I am a member as see what goes on for myself. What's more, in our country we are innocent until proven guilty, therefore it is not up to me to prove that your outrageous claims are false, it is up to you to prove they are true!
I can always say "you are a male prostitute.. now prove me wrong!" But isn't it more logical for ME to have to prove YOU right?
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by sebatwerk
YOU are the one that needs to prove the supposed conspiracies! You say that the NWO has controlled the planet for centuries, but i doubt you have ever seen any CONCLUSIVE evidence of the existance of such a group. I know for a fact that Freemasonry has nothing to do with any kind of global conspiracy, as I am a member as see what goes on for myself. What's more, in our country we are innocent until proven guilty, therefore it is not up to me to prove that your outrageous claims are false, it is up to you to prove they are true!
I can always say "you are a male prostitute.. now prove me wrong!" But isn't it more logical for ME to have to prove YOU right?
Lame mate. Keep up with the thread. Also include the obligitory, "The mod is screwing with us" complaint.
I'd add a picture of a friutcake but that's coming to an end.
Say "Hi" to MM for me as he doesn't want to talk to me any longer.
I'm not liking this "you're either for us or against us #". You can play that crap, I won't.
Have a nice day.
Say hi to df1 too.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
What are you talking about?
When did I say you were screwing with us? Who's MM, and df1? And when did I say "youre either with us or against us"?
Originally posted by sebatwerk
YOU are the one that needs to prove the supposed conspiracies! You say that the NWO has controlled the planet for centuries, but i doubt you have ever seen any CONCLUSIVE evidence of the existance of such a group. I know for a fact that Freemasonry has nothing to do with any kind of global conspiracy, as I am a member as see what goes on for myself. What's more, in our country we are innocent until proven guilty, therefore it is not up to me to prove that your outrageous claims are false, it is up to you to prove they are true!
One part of Illuminati World Network:
Secret Societies Group
* Freemasonry
* Skull & Bones
* Grand Orient Lodge
* Grand Alpina Lodge
* Knights Templar
* Royal Order of the Garter
* Priory De Sion
* Rosicrucians
Political Group
* National Government Leaders
* United Nations
* Bilderbergers
* Trilateral Commission
* Council on Foreign Relations
* Club of Rome
* Aspen Institute
* Bohemian Grove
* Regional Federations (NATO, EEC, etc.)
* International Labor Unions
Banking And Money Group
* International Money Center Banks
* Central Banks
* International Monetary Fund
* World Bank
* International Bank of Settlements
* World Conservation Bank
* Multinational Corporations
* Foundations
Originally posted by Souljah
Originally posted by sebatwerk
YOU are the one that needs to prove the supposed conspiracies! You say that the NWO has controlled the planet for centuries, but i doubt you have ever seen any CONCLUSIVE evidence of the existance of such a group. I know for a fact that Freemasonry has nothing to do with any kind of global conspiracy, as I am a member as see what goes on for myself. What's more, in our country we are innocent until proven guilty, therefore it is not up to me to prove that your outrageous claims are false, it is up to you to prove they are true!
Illuminati and Freemasons are not the same.
The Masons are just a part of a big network of the Order of Illuminati.
Technically, an Illuminatus is a Master Mason who has received all the "light" Masonry can bestow. He is beyond 32° and even beyond 33°! Such people are known as the Masters of Masters of the Temple, and collectively are known by several names other than the Illuminati.