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originally posted by: Lazarus Short
Relax with the "Satan" stuff, pls. He is a minor character and God keeps him on a very short leash. Yes, there are unholy hands on the Bible, but please don't do a Church Lady over it.
In particular, "hell" is a misnomer, translated (if I can dignify what was done with that word) from four Hebrew and Greek words, sheol, gehenna, hades and tartarus. None of the four mean anything like the place of eternal conscious torment as we find Dante, Milton and Baxter writing about. Hell comes from Hel and Hel was a goddess/ogress in Norse mythology. They thought that if you did not rate going to Valhalla, you went to Helheim (House of Hel). It's just that simple.
Satan, btw, is not the Prince of Hell. He is not even the Prince of Heck.
originally posted by: Smigg
originally posted by: Lazarus Short
Relax with the "Satan" stuff, pls. He is a minor character and God keeps him on a very short leash. Yes, there are unholy hands on the Bible, but please don't do a Church Lady over it.
In particular, "hell" is a misnomer, translated (if I can dignify what was done with that word) from four Hebrew and Greek words, sheol, gehenna, hades and tartarus. None of the four mean anything like the place of eternal conscious torment as we find Dante, Milton and Baxter writing about. Hell comes from Hel and Hel was a goddess/ogress in Norse mythology. They thought that if you did not rate going to Valhalla, you went to Helheim (House of Hel). It's just that simple.
Satan, btw, is not the Prince of Hell. He is not even the Prince of Heck.
Hell is a black void dimly lit in places, there are no go area's depending on how bad you are, the torment is your own which is by far the worst torment.
Satan is prince of the power of the air.
So the Bible we have today, has it been stained by Satan at some point in our history, my belief is how can the Bible have not been stained, I'm not saying that the Bible is false, just not absolute truth. Satan has been around too long and men are too weak for this not to be the case in my opinion, again just look at the world today, Satan knows our nature better than we know ourselves.
originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Smigg
So the Bible we have today, has it been stained by Satan at some point in our history, my belief is how can the Bible have not been stained, I'm not saying that the Bible is false, just not absolute truth. Satan has been around too long and men are too weak for this not to be the case in my opinion, again just look at the world today, Satan knows our nature better than we know ourselves.
Do you mind if I ask you if there's something specific that you feel is not absolute truth?
Men may be weak, but God is strong and has much more power than Satan in order to preserve his message. Here are a few things that Jesus said to his disciples about what they would preach and write...
John 14:25-26
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 16:12-14
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: Smigg
The bible IS absolute truth, however our interpretations and arguments about it is were our error's are found.
Understand that even Rabbi do not read it always in the literal sense but read into it many other meanings and so even fundamentalists often get it wrong, God is outside of time so a day to God may for example mean something very different, the earth was void and without form and darkness was upon the face of the deep, go forth and REplenish the earth are all points worthy of mention as is the now out of fashion (mostly due to it's adoption and use by Slavers) Pre-Adamite theory which is an interpretation that there were people BEFORE Adam.
But whatever our lack of understanding may be,
www.openbible.info...
And take the Red Sea crossing for example, archaeologists deny there is any evidence though this was NOT always the case and in fact the early Archaeologists before there profession was perverted by established doctrine's and academic postings and reputations were often trying to PROVE the bible.
So it took a man of Faith to find the site, after he did the Saudi Authority's locked off access to much that he had discovered, evidence that gives proof that much of Saudi was already claimed by the Jewish tribes on there return from Egypt when Moshe led them through those lands.
www.ronwyatt.com...
The fact is the TRUTH does not die, it may be hidden, the victors may teach lies as truth and political factors may make the truth inconvenient but it remains Truth.
What about Christs Blood.
After his death Mr Wyatt has been attacked by a great many people including some within the Church but HE did NOT Lie.
Some things you have to have in faith, science has replaced many peoples faith but for some they go hand in hand.
www.arkdiscovery.com...#:~:text=Israel%20Antiquities%20Authority%20confirms%20that,he%20never%20found%20a%20chamber.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Smigg
ALL but the MONARCH OF BOOKS THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES BIBLE
originally posted by: Smigg
So the Bible we have today, has it been stained by Satan at some point in our history