.9 repeating = 1? Is our numerical system flawed?

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posted on Mar, 11 2010 @ 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by BriggsBU
Bleh. How come it always seems that when I make a knowledgeable, informative post, the thread goes dead? It's really troublesome. No one ever wants to discuss my delightfully insightful posts.


hey did you hear about the guy who matched up the RODIN COIL and VBM, (vortex based math) to the SATOR SQUARE...
breakfornews.com...

yup that is right he solved what this 2000 year old 5x5 SATOR/ROTAS/Knights Templar Magic Square of Mars, is really about...

AN ANCIENT VORTEX THEORY buried, veiled etc...by who?

HOW CAN IT MATCH UP SO WELL?
HOW CAN THIS MAGIC SQUARE ... real source of which is unknown ...
match modern VBM and and and it gets better...

IT CAN ALSO be used to help Penrose/Witten solve their TWISTOR STRING THEORY and nail down gravity.

namaste




posted on Mar, 11 2010 @ 10:12 AM
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wow 21 pages - i stopped reading on page 14.

OK I have an Idea.

9.999999999999999999999999999 is not 1 and will never be.

But

If you have 1/3=3.3333... then 3.3333... x 3 is 10! So:

0.999999999999999999999999999 = 1 = Correct
0.999999999999999999999999999 = 0.999... = Correct

It's more a "believe" problem I think.

It's hard but 0.00000000000000000000000000000001 can make a huge difference to ZERO or NULL

Try Calculate:
5/0 = Endless (not allowed operation)
5/0.000000000000000000000000000000000000001= 50000000000000000000000000000000000000

Also tending to endless but it can never be endless.

Can you life with this conclusion?


PS. BTW. 0=NULL=ZERO is not a natural number, and you will never find 0.000... in nature, it does only exist as a helper for math.

[edit on 11-3-2010 by cushycrux]



posted on Mar, 11 2010 @ 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by theresult
Right...

let me start out by simply answering ur question

YES ITS FLAWED

now i shall tell you why unlike all the other posts i laugh at...

MATHMATICS is a mesurment of a givin object

let me point out 2 things that happen in maths that SHOW why infact its flawed

infinity / PI / symmertry

MATHMATICS LOOPS

understand that? IT LOOPs

all my god damm life i have asked the very question WHY we have mathmatics

i may not be rich i may not be famouse but please please understand one thing

I UNDERSTAND WHY AND HOW WE USE MATH

ITS A TOTAL JOKE

the reason you get 909999999999999999999999999. or 333333333333

is becouse ur asking a question that leads into infintiy.. sounds oodd? lol why would it?

or shall i show u some stupid equation? !STUPID!

mathmatics is here becouse our small little minds can not deal with the fact the universe is infinante becouse we are live..

try this out if you want:

22/8
22/7

do you understand my question?

we apply maths to everything other than US

i may sound crazy... but so did the guy who told u the world is flat

and in years to come i shall be proven right.. that is my legercy

the universe mad me to show u WTF math is



my sig is there for a reason


PI doesn't have a loop
Nature art Perfection
(On what damn Data Medium is that number saved in reality?! - It's fu... infinite and not repeating)




posted on Mar, 11 2010 @ 10:27 AM
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breakfornews.com...

2000 year old riddle has been solved. The 5x5 SATOR/ROTAS/Knights Templar Magic Square of Mars, is really about... Helping to show how an ANCIENT VORTEX THEORY was buried, veiled etc...by who?

HOW CAN IT MATCH UP SO WELL?
HOW CAN THIS MAGIC SQUARE ... real source of which is unknown ...
match modern VBM and and and it gets better...

IT CAN ALSO be used to help Penrose/Witten solve their TWISTOR STRING THEORY and nail down gravity.

namaste


[edit on 11-3-2010 by CHiram_Abiff]



posted on Mar, 11 2010 @ 10:45 AM
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This is old hat, I'm afraid. It is a very old argument.

See: Principia Mathematica



posted on Mar, 11 2010 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by Smack
This is old hat, I'm afraid. It is a very old argument.

See: Principia Mathematica


who was that last comment directed toward dude?
you have a specific link to direct us too?
that is a big book you quote...
not even a clue...just an ambiguous comment?

namaste

2000 year old riddle solved SATOR SQUARE = VBM = Twistor String Theory
breakfornews.com...



[edit on 11-3-2010 by CHiram_Abiff]



posted on Mar, 11 2010 @ 11:33 AM
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Obviously it wasn't intended for people that dabble in mystical non-sense, but rather to the original topic.

Yes, Logic may have a part to play in this discussion - the original one.



posted on Mar, 11 2010 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by Smack
reply to post by CHiram_Abiff
 


Obviously it wasn't intended for people that dabble in mystical non-sense, but rather to the original topic.

Yes, Logic may have a part to play in this discussion - the original one.


did you go to the links ya dink?

unless you do
how about NOT using the words mystical and nonsense in the same sentence?

DUH
DUH
DUH
How many times does a DUH-mmy need to be reminded of its programming limitations?

IT IS WELL KNOWN MARKO RODIN GOT HIS INSPIRATION FROM THE B'NAI

DUH YOU ARE ONE LOVELY PIECE OF FLESH AND BONES NONSENSE...


IGNORANCE IS NOT BLISS.

how many ignorant zombies are there left out there resembling ewe spewing your brand of nonsense?

geesh
go to the links
debate what I just put on the table

before you shoot of your yap and confuse the innocents.




[edit on 11-3-2010 by CHiram_Abiff]



posted on Mar, 11 2010 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by CHiram_Abiff
how about NOT using the words mystical and nonsense in the same sentence?


They go together so well?



IT IS WELL KNOWN MARKO RODIN GOT HIS INSPIRATION FROM THE B'NAI


Just looking at his material, he looks a bit like he got his inspiration from chemicals.

Same old same old, only this one's mixing in numerology. At least Steorn has a nice bit of proper looking math that makes you go 'hmm'.



posted on Mar, 11 2010 @ 05:24 PM
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The original Thread was posted on 24-3-2005 in the Science Forum by
The Vagabond - Super Moderator.
The topic is: .9 repeating = 1? Is our numerical system flawed?

My comment to the topic and not to any specific poster was:

"This is old hat, I'm afraid. It is a very old argument.

See: Principia Mathematica "

I Cite the three volume work written by Alfred North Whitehead and Bertrand Russell because it is considered by many mathematicians as one of the most important treatise on mathematical logic and philosophy since Aristotle's Organon. And it deals issues like the one being discussed in the original post - one notable example being Theorem *54·43.
Obviously this niggling doubt about the logical foundation of our mathematical system has been argued for a very long time - at least since Aristotle's time.

Now, having possibly wasted my effort in explaining that to you, what if anything does what I said or the original topic of the thread have in common with your loopy Knights Templar theories?



posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 10:57 AM
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posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by Smack
reply to post by CHiram_Abiff
 


The original Thread was posted on 24-3-2005 in the Science Forum by
The Vagabond - Super Moderator.
The topic is: .9 repeating = 1? Is our numerical system flawed?

My comment to the topic and not to any specific poster was:

"This is old hat, I'm afraid. It is a very old argument.

See: Principia Mathematica "

I Cite the three volume work written by Alfred North Whitehead and Bertrand Russell because it is considered by many mathematicians as one of the most important treatise on mathematical logic and philosophy since Aristotle's Organon. And it deals issues like the one being discussed in the original post - one notable example being Theorem *54·43.
Obviously this niggling doubt about the logical foundation of our mathematical system has been argued for a very long time - at least since Aristotle's time.

Now, having possibly wasted my effort in explaining that to you, what if anything does what I said or the original topic of the thread have in common with your loopy Knights Templar theories?


what is the value of pi?

I guarantee you we have different answers.
I guarantee you that the ancients and me have a different answer than YOU!

therein lies your answer to all an IGNORANT fella like you might spew when dissing the ancients dude.

breakfornews.com...
this link shows how clueless you are.
why can I say that.
because it shows why all I present on this thread has some validity.

Just because you are IGNORANT of this research does not make it NOT TRUE.

namaste

[edit on 12-3-2010 by CHiram_Abiff]



posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:12 AM
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Since we are discussing mathematics, let's stick to mathematics, OK? You can leave your conspiracies at the door, as mathematics is the only thing in the world where proof is possible.

0.99999 ... 999 to any given number of decimal places is 1. The number itself, however, is still 0.9 recurring. Our numerical system is not flawed.



posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by CHiram_Abiff
 


Since we are discussing mathematics, let's stick to mathematics, OK? You can leave your conspiracies at the door, as mathematics is the only thing in the world where proof is possible.

0.99999 ... 999 to any given number of decimal places is 1. The number itself, however, is still 0.9 recurring. Our numerical system is not flawed.


duh
fine
you answer this question

what is the value of pi?

duh I thought that was math.

that arguement is a good place to show how 'flawed' your kind of higher-than-thou flawed math is...

can't go there eh?

go ahead commit yourself to your pi in the sky math that supports your IGNORANT view and perspectives.

your esoteric knowledge is ZERO
how about what is pi?

namaste



posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:20 AM
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Um I do not understand your question?



posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 12:28 PM
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No, not really. Pi is an irrational number, that is one without end. If one needs to use Pi in a calculation, one simply uses it to the desired number of decimal places. Pi has been worked out to more than a trillion digits.

I fail to see what any of that has to do with our number system being wrong, or some kind of new-age esoteric nonsense.



posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by CHiram_Abiff
 


No, not really. Pi is an irrational number, that is one without end. If one needs to use Pi in a calculation, one simply uses it to the desired number of decimal places. Pi has been worked out to more than a trillion digits.

I fail to see what any of that has to do with our number system being wrong, or some kind of new-age esoteric nonsense.


pi = 3.14159265...

however explain
discuss
great pyramid is associated with pi = 22/7

and what is the Vedic Value of pi?
like I said you fellas are 'stuck'



SWASTIKA a solution for pi that predates Freemasonry?
Based on what size grid fellas?
What magic square grid is that.
DUH
esoteric accounts for more than the IGNORANT crap you fellas babble on about.

MATH without MYTH is quite IGNORANT....
keep it up

how does the swastika line up with pi and the pythagorean 16x16 lambdoma?
>>> www.davidicke.com...

namaste

[edit on 12-3-2010 by CHiram_Abiff]



posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by CHiram_Abiff

what is the value of pi?

I guarantee you we have different answers.
I guarantee you that the ancients and me have a different answer than YOU!

therein lies your answer to all an IGNORANT fella like you might spew when dissing the ancients dude.


What do you say the value of Pi is? How is your value calculated?


...as for the OP
I see no reason why this thread has gone on so long. The OP's mathematical expression falls apart in the 4th line.

According to the OP:

.999=x
10x=9.999
10x - x = 9x
9x=9
1x=1.
.999 = 1.

However, I have to ask, how did he come up with 9x=9 in the 4th line?

It does not mathematically follow from the equation above it...
10x - x = 9x

...that:
9x=9

Maybe I'm missing something here, but it seems that he pulled "9x=9" out of thin air.
If you eliminate the variable from the equation 10x - x = 9x like so:

10x - x = 9x

(10x - x) / x = (9x) / x

10 - 1 = 9

9 = 9

You get that 9=9 (which is obvious). However you DON'T get 9x=9, like the OP says. Again, if I'm missing how he came up with 9x=9 in the 4th line, please tell me.

It seems to me that the OP's logic is obviously flawed, not our Math system itself.



[edit on 3/12/2010 by Soylent Green Is People]



posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People

What do you say the value of Pi is? How is your value calculated?


...as for the OP
.



go back one or two posts...your response was in haste...or my edit was slow.

I was asked why this math is crap...
I just gave you fine examples.

www.davidicke.com...

namaste

[edit on 12-3-2010 by CHiram_Abiff]



posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by CHiram_Abiff

Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by CHiram_Abiff
 


No, not really. Pi is an irrational number, that is one without end. If one needs to use Pi in a calculation, one simply uses it to the desired number of decimal places. Pi has been worked out to more than a trillion digits.

I fail to see what any of that has to do with our number system being wrong, or some kind of new-age esoteric nonsense.


pi = 3.14159265...

however explain
discuss
great pyramid is associated with pi = 22/7

and what is the Vedic Value of pi?
like I said you fellas are 'stuck'...


22/7 is an approximation only.
Pi -- being an irrational number -- cannot be expressed in a fraction.

As for the Vedic value (or anyone else's opposing value), could you please show mathematically why these values are more "right" than 3.141592654...?

(the link you provided -- www.davidicke.com... -- does not explain "why" their value of Pi is more right)



[edit on 3/12/2010 by Soylent Green Is People]





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