Originally posted by CHiram_Abiff
Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
No, not really. Pi is an irrational number, that is one without end.
[snip]
so I have an advantage
I tend to know the sh*t you know, and then some...
go here knock yourself out about your pi in the sky fantasies.
I respect this fella...
www.jainmathemagics.com...
I will be releasing a new body of work that gives the True Value of Pi, based on the Harmonics of Phi (1.618033...),
a value close to 3.144...
The ancient Mathematics masters have always known that the two most important transcendental numbers
Pi and Phi are intimately related.
you still need to prove yourself.
my radar is still only picking up the IGNORANT blip on the screen...
THIS RARE BOOK IS NOW AVAILABLE.
It actually contains 60 different
and amazing ways of calculating Pi = 3.1464466
never before shown in print!!!
60 ways to leave your pi?
and find another piece of pi?
hahaha
namaste
Removed off topic remark.
Please read Courtesy is mandatory
[edit on 12/3/10 by masqua]
Perhaps there are 60 ways...
...I did some research and I see that Archimedes used a brute-force method of inscribing a circle into a many-sided polygon. Also, there is the
Chinese mathmetician Liu Hui's formula. There's John Machin's formula, the Leibniz Formula (which is based on the earlier work of Indian
Mathematician Madhava), and Isaac Newton, who was a contemporary of Leibniz, had his own formula
The Swiss mathematician Leonhard Euler -- the man who popularized the use of the Greek letter "π" (Pi) to mean the ratio of a circle's
circumference to its diameter -- had is own formula for calculating Pi.
More recently, the Chudnovsky brothers developed the Chudnovsky Algorithm for calculating Pi.
So, yeah -- I know there are many methods for calculating Pi. However, all of these methods come up with 3.14159265359... (but they may diverge
farther the the right of the decimal).
However, none of these historical algorithms come up with the "root of Phi" value of 3.144605512 or Reddivari Sarva Jagannadha Reddy's value
3.146446609…, which is based on the formula A = (14 – √2) / 4.
I'm sure these other people think their version may be right, but do you have any evidence that these people have calculated Pi better than
Archimedes, Newton, Liu Hui, Madhava, Machin, Leibniz, Euler, the Chudnovskys, or the others? (...and them "saying" their value is more accurate is
not evidence).
Here is one mathematical proof (and there are others) that Pi is irrational. If Mr. Jain is saying that Pi is a rational number that stops after 9th
decimal place (is that what he is saying? It's unclear from his circuitous writing), then this mathematical proof is evidence that Mr. Jain's value
of 3.144605512 is not correct.
www.coolissues.com...
Although, perhaps he isn't saying Pi is a rational number, because Phi is
irrational, and Jain is basing his value for Pi on Phi.
Like I asked before, can you provide some mathematical evidence for why you believe the 'accepted' value of Pi is wrong, and why one of these other
people (I'm not sure which one you are asking me to believe, Jain or Reddy) is right?
You say you "know sh*t" that I don't know, yet you seem not to be willing to share that knowledge. Unless you actually tell me why the accepted
value of Pi is wrong, I'm going to have to think that you actually DON'T know sh*t.
I don't know what Jain's formula is for Pi based on Phi, but anyone can find a "relationship" between Pi and Phi by plugging in a manufactured
constant. However the real trick is to prove that the constant used to show that relationship is meaningful, or just a made-up number that gets you
close to Pi.
Could you please post Mr. Jain's formula? You seem convinced he is right, so you must have it.
[edit on 3/12/2010 by Soylent Green Is People]