Austrian gunman who killed four people and wounded 17, 'was known Islamist born in Vienna

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Blame Corbyn if you must i suppose. LoL

I was under the impression God might have has something to do with it all the same.

My point being, you don't teach your granny how to suck eggs.

We don't need another crusade on the cards eh?

No point in awakening that dragon, because the Muslims would lose, and we would become the monster.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2
Could be. Would be interesting to find out how that happened if that's the case though, no? I mean, some people are just malleable for sure, but who did the molding and how? How do you convince someone born in the western world, that it's terrible enough to go on a rampage? Was half their family wiped out by a drone missile or what? I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but in order to drive me to pick up one of my many guns and turn it on people in my country..... Well, I can't even imagine something that would drive me to that.

a reply to: TKDRL

He was previously done for trying to go to Syria to fight for ISIS and underwent a deradicalising programme. Seems that it was not successful.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2
Oh dear. Trying to deprogram a cult member against their will is rarely successful. Probably would have been better off handing him a one way ticket to Syria, and deactivating the passport upon arrival.

a reply to: andy06shake
I was joking Andy. You would think that killing in the name of religion would be a thing of the past but sadly not.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Kind of thought you were.

We will always find some reason to kill in the name of.

Part and parcel of the human condition i imagine.

After all, we need to justify our actions somehow, if only to ourselves.

Sad really the things humanity has perpetrated in the name of a creator.

I'm inclined to believe he may not share the same conviction all the same.

a reply to: andy06shake
Yes. It's more ideology than religion I suppose.
Sad all the same.

While living in Germany there were some issues for american women and the "refugees" when the police were contacted (cause the ladies were smart enough to get pictures) the cops said yes we know who they are but we cannot do anything with them unless we catch them in a violent act.

Id wager a good chunk of money that they polic in europe know who the likely fundamentalists are and its the politcians keeping them from doing their job.

Every time one of these attacks happens, it always comes out that the attacker is known to the security services.

Every time one of these attacks happens, it always comes out that the attacker is known to the security services.

originally posted by: oloufo
anders breivik was german? and the christchurch attacker too?

Both of those are leftists - nazis are socialists are leftists - the christchurch shooter despite being called far right donated to anti capitalists who cite the teachings of aethists and communists.

originally posted by: moebius
a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

'not in our name' will be the Muslim cry from the peaceful lot

Two Muslims ran into the gunfire rescuing an older woman and an injured cop.

So can we please stop blaming Muslims for the actions perpetrated by Islamists.

No we can't. Islam is clearly the issue. That's the reality of it.

a reply to: RMFX1

And yet clearly only a minuscule percentage of Muslims are directly responsible for these horrendous atrocities being carried out.

Islam is a religion followed by 1.8 billion people around the planet.

If they were all a problem, causing it, and killing innocent people, i think we might notice.

The reality is the extremist elements of all organized religious practices need to be removed, Islam simply ticks that box more at the moment.

a reply to: circuitsports

Both of those are leftists - nazis are socialists are leftists - .....

What utter nonsense!

This has been disproven time and time again yet still you insist on repeating this right-wing revisionist bollocks.

Your paranoid delusions that anything and everything bad in the world is 'leftist' drives this desire to ignore ideological teachings and historical FACT.

.....the christchurch shooter despite being called far right donated to anti capitalists who cite the teachings of aethists and communists.

That's a stretch by anyone's imagination.

Groups Tarrant donated money to and who he had links with and interacted with:
Identitäre Bewegung Österreich - en.wikipedia.org...
Génération Identitaire
United Patriots Front - en.wikipedia.org...
True Blue Crew - en.wikipedia.org...

All Satan worshipping commie bastards I assume?

Don't know where the relevance to this thread is though.

As in the corporate world, a few bad seeds eventually cause a change in corporate policy. The same will be true of Islam worldwide. A few Muslims extremists have caused enough trouble in almost every country of the world in that we will see a worldwide prohibition to the following of their sacred book which is fueling this problem.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: moebius

It’s easier to believe they are all evil, it somehow comforts people, allowing them to make sense of such a senseless action.

Those murdering scumbags want this, and like little sheep, some people will oblige.

There is so much more about their culture that led people to that thinking.

You had to leave your failed country and now are being hosted by another. Is the risk too great importing them. Do you gamble with the lives of citzens or go the safer route?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: RMFX1

And yet clearly only a minuscule percentage of Muslims are directly responsible for these horrendous atrocities being carried out.

Islam is a religion followed by 1.8 billion people around the planet.

If they were all a problem, causing it, and killing innocent people, i think we might notice.

The reality is the extremist elements of all organized religious practices need to be removed, Islam simply ticks that box more at the moment.

Oh yeah? Where do the vast majority of those 1.8 billion people live? And what's it like there.

Nice try.

a reply to: RMFX1

Planet Earth mate just like you and me.

Quite a temperate climate along the equatorial zone, conducive to all sorts of forms of life.

1.8 billion people are not coming to get you RMFX1 that's a fact.

a reply to: RMFX1

Surely the Roman Catholic Church given its history eg the Inquisition has been responsible for quite a few deaths? In the name of God?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Absolutely. How long ago was that? Is it still happening now? On our streets?