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But the pentagon request form to release the videos DID list balloons as one of the subjects for the three videos! And the performance characteristics in GoFast do not rule out a balloon, so the release form to me suggests they probably think it's a balloon:
originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
What may interest me the most is how anyone can think that such a simple answer as a bird or balloon could possibly be true? That the military with their decades old built-in excuses of weather balloons, marsh gas, ice crystals and Venus could not come up with an answer for the ‘Go Fast’ and the other 2 UAP videos.
originally posted by: Lucidparadox
Are you talking about that dude on YouTube who did the Trig to determine the speed?
lol...
He had one MAJOR hole in his calculations... he said his math put the craft at thousands of feet above the water, when its VERY clear at one point the craft goes INTO the water and out. His math is completely wrong based on the altitude he gave the craft.
originally posted by: IMSAM
a reply to: Macenroe82
the 64k question is, do they have a craft? or part of a craft? or anything resembling a craft? Or just fragments that might prove to be meteorites or slug waste? Articles are great but at some point we need to see the goods
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
You're just proving Leslie Kean is a liar when she says it's the same slide, Hal's slide included the word "possibly", meaning we don't know. The slide in the New York Times isn't the same slide, because it doesn't have the word "possibly" implying they are ET.
originally posted by: celltypespecific
originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: celltypespecific
ITs time to finally CALL OUT MM.... He has been completely wrong about AATIP and Big Lue from DAY one!!!!
Well start with day one then Cellty : Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and 'DeLonge' Road to AATIP, page 1
You tell me what I got wrong! Baring in mind that was all two and a half years ago and all we have is 3 debatable videos and a lot of talk.
WRONG>>>>>>> See Leslie's reply to your Nonsense:
Mirageman has consistently been much more reliable than you, and heck you can make completely opposite posts 5 minutes apart when you change your mind, mirageman is also more consistent than you.
This is the slide Hal used in at 9:12 in his 2018 talk showing "possibly including off-world"", whereas "possibly" is missing from the slide Leslie Kean gave us, proving her a liar, and untrustworthy, though she might be just another pawn in the psy-op going on to feed us BS.
Removing the word possibly changes the context.
What makes you think these are slides from the same presentation?? Kean clearly states theirs is from a presentation to the Congressional staff and DOD officials. The one you are talking about (possibly including) is a presentation for a different audience.
Read what Kean says!
originally posted by: Sublant
What makes you think these are slides from the same presentation?? Kean clearly states theirs is from a presentation to the Congressional staff and DOD officials. The one you are talking about (possibly including) is a presentation for a different audience.
originally posted by: celltypespecific
WRONG>>>>>>> See Leslie's reply to your Nonsense:
Very true.
originally posted by: CardDown
a reply to: charlyv
Leslie Kean’s UFO articles are more activism than journalism. Since the first NYT story, Kean and the other authors concealed more information about AATIP than they disclosed. That’s typical of her stories, and like a trial lawyer or stage magician, she only shows you just what she wants you to see.
So, Hal Puthoff showed the true slide to a limited gathering in 2018.
originally posted by: charlyv
Having made many technical PP presentations in my career, I will attest to the fact that for most of them, there were multiple versions geared to the audiences they were being presented to. It is done all the time, so this makes sense to me.