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originally posted by: Osirisvset
"Hell" was just more convenient for the church hierarchy, for keeping the plebs in line and increasing their own power and wealth.
Another of religion's crimes against humanity imo, taking the beauty of Jesus's teachings and corrupting them with hate, fear, guilt, division and greed.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
But
Satan, it’s demons are eternal so, where do they go
Humanity was not created to be eternal so they shall burn away up to nothing, gone, forgotten, nothing left, vanish to eternal shame as the bible states
As for eternal creatures, demons, what is your solution for their banishment?
originally posted by: Osirisvset
"Hell" was just more convenient for the church hierarchy, for keeping the plebs in line and increasing their own power and wealth.
Another of religion's crimes against humanity imo, taking the beauty of Jesus's teachings and corrupting them with hate, fear, guilt, division and greed.
originally posted by: Lazarus Short
originally posted by: Raggedyman
But
Satan, it’s demons are eternal so, where do they go
Humanity was not created to be eternal so they shall burn away up to nothing, gone, forgotten, nothing left, vanish to eternal shame as the bible states
As for eternal creatures, demons, what is your solution for their banishment?
Demons - why do you think they are eternal? I have no solution...but God does.
Humans - why do you think they are not eternal? God has a solution: the resurrection.
You just can’t make crap up and say it’s the truth pthena, just lies, blatant lies, I can’t even imagine why you would make that up or pretend you even know what Judaism taught when you are so far from the truth
Thus, there were no gods or goddesses associated with the dead. No stories to tell about a god or goddess descending there and returning, to be elevated to the heavens, like Inanna.
Laz replies;
Jesus the Christ died and descended only as far as His tomb. He never descended to Hell, because there is no such place. Pagan myths have nothing to do with it.
5In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
6Who, being in very nature a God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
9Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
22“For just as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, will endure before Me,” declares the LORD, “so your descendants and your name will endure. 23From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come to worship before Me,” says the LORD. 24“As they go forth, they will see the corpses of the men who have rebelled against Me; for their worm will never die, their fire will never be quenched, and they will be a horror to all mankind.”…
The punishment of Prometheus as a consequence of the theft of fire is a popular subject of both ancient and modern culture. Zeus, king of the Olympian gods, sentenced the Titan to eternal torment for his transgression. The immortal was bound to a rock, where each day an eagle, the emblem of Zeus, was sent to eat Prometheus' liver, which would then grow back overnight to be eaten again the next day (in ancient Greece, the liver was often thought to be the seat of human emotions). Prometheus was eventually freed by the hero Heracles.
Prometheus
His nobility is further reflected in the story of his death, as Prometheus sacrificed his life, allowing mankind to obtain the use of fire. As the son of Cronus he was immortal, so it was left to Heracles to arrange a bargain with Zeus to exchange Chiron's immortality for the life of Prometheus, who had been chained to a rock and left to die for his transgressions. Chiron was pierced with an arrow belonging to Heracles that had been treated with the blood of the Hydra,
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Ironically, Chiron, the master of the healing arts, could not heal himself and willingly gave up his immortality. For this reason, his half-brother Zeus took pity of him thus placed him among the stars in the sky to be honored. The Greeks identified him as the constellation Centaurus.
Chiron-Death
originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Lazarus Short
Regardless of what name you want to give it, here's what the Bible says...
Isaiah 33:14 - The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
Daniel 12:2 - And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Matthew 18:8 - Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
Matthew 25:41 - Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Matthew 25:46 - And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
2 Thessalonians 1:9 - Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;