Wanted: Honest intelligent productive thinking to resolve the issue God exists or not.

a reply to: neutronflux
Is your idea of God a man sitting on a cloud?

Voila, that explained it all now let's hope anybody reading the thread understands.

a reply to: pthena

When glimpsed through an absolutely impenetrable lens

If a lens is absolutely impenetrable how can something be glimpsed through it?

a reply to: midicon
It's an impenetrable thin ellipsoidal quantum lens.......maybe?
www.researchgate.net...

a reply to: midicon

If ( god ) wants to get someone's attention then ...

One of the mysteries is that there is () which is not seeable or findable.
If () is in front of, occluding ( god ) then that is an eclipse of a sort.

I'm still trying to understand the ramifications: whether something should or even can be done.

In the meantime, here ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS of The Satanic Temple for consideration:

I
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
thesatanictemple.com...

The more I think about this situation the more I think that normal people shouldn't concern themselves with ().

because:

If () is unknowable, unmovable, then best not try to push () aside.
Somebody is bound to get hurt in the attempt.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Is that something that people can make
or is that theoretical based on the best scientific collaboration available?

So it is possible, in concept ?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux
God is pure awareness.

What colour is pure awareness?
What shape is pure awareness?

God is more than pure awareness if god can manipulate physical objects like create humankind. Congrats. You just debunked yourself.

So god is artificial intelligence in a cloud?

If god was sitting on a cloud, what color would god be?

a reply to: neutronflux
God is the aware space in which everything appears and disappears.

Everything that appears is made of God (pure awareness).

All seeing and all knowing and always present......and all powerful.

There is nothing other.

a reply to: neutronflux
Do you believe that God is a man sitting on a cloud?

a reply to: neutronflux

If god was sitting on a cloud, what color would god be?

In real life you see the cloud, so whatever the cloud looks like to you.

Maybe I should have waited for Itisnowagain's response.

a reply to: neutronflux
What colour is pure awareness?

originally posted by: neutronflux
If god was sitting on a cloud, what color would god be?

That's a silly question.

You could suggest what coloured reflections may touch God, but you cannot tell God's colour from that.
But the reality is that God is pretty big, encompassing all, beyond imagination etc. etc.

If a cloud is comfortable for him then he's a lie.

If God sits on clouds then God is disproven.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux
What colour is pure awareness?

Kinda like turquoise.
Mildly less pretentious.

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar
Silly questions are Neutronflux speciality.

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar
Really?

Where have you ever seen pure awareness?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar
Silly questions are Neutronflux specialty.

You're pretty good at it too.
Don't be so hard on yourself.

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar
So pure awareness is turquoise?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux
God is the aware space in which everything appears and disappears.

Everything that appears is made of God (pure awareness).

All seeing and all knowing and always present......and all powerful.

There is nothing other.

What does that have to do with

One, proof god created humankind?

Two. Proof there is only one invisible entity that we would label god.


If I was a betting man, I would bet there is a race of pure energy beings in the universe that fits your description of “pure awareness”.


The color of awareness. If it’s pure awareness, it wouldn’t have any physical properties.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar
So pure awareness is turquoise?

Yes!

Yes it is.

a reply to: neutronflux
No physical properties.....invisible.