Chaos at UK Black Lives Matter clashes men hurled BIKES at police horses

a reply to: Freeborn

Western Liberals and leftists are not the same thing.

a reply to: Freeborn


Ummm...what a perfect load of twaddle...

“Racism must be stamped out”

Speaks the mind not comprehending it’s own innate nature...


And before you drone on...and on...and on some more...about evolution...or being enlightened...let me make something perfectly clear...

There ain’t no such animal...

The evidence has been exquisitely portrayed by all the looting and burning and murder...in the name of solidarity...

Which proves that all societies are just a whisper away from anarchy...and how the ignorant will latch onto any and all chances to take what’s yours...and leave you puking up blood for your crime of being in their way...

17 and counting...how many more deaths on top of those 17...will equal the death of one kneeled on the neck man...


Perhaps you should instead call for the stamping out of ignorance...because that’s all I see being enacted...ignorant leftists...burning children alive...as they watch and cheer...




Poor form dude...





YouSir

a reply to: projectvxn

Oh.

Please explain.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: projectvxn

There are many examples online here's one.

Yes the guy should have got out of the car when asked but the reaction of the officer was disproportionate to the situation.

The police force are actually supposed to be a police service , I know people who have taken beatings at our local station , I was once threatened when just asking questions when I was arrested years ago.

I get that it's a tough job but some officers take things to far , unprofessional behavior is unacceptable.

That policeman got off all the charges, but resigned before a later inquiry by the Independent Office for Police Conduct, who do have proper clout, found him guilty of Gross misconduct.

The driver was mistakenly ID'd for a known criminal.

a reply to: Freeborn

Liberals believe in free speech and many of the other tenets of western liberal democracy.

Leftists are communists.

a reply to: smurfy

Opps!

I hope somebody in the Police force paid for the repairs to the poor sod's car, nevermind compensated him and any passengers, considering the ordeal he put them through!

The eager little beaver actually looked quite mentally ill waving his wee truncheon around and scrapping away at windows. LoL

I see a statue of Winston Churchill was vandalised.

Certainly an...interesting way of protesting “fascism”

I would’ve thought he would be an example of resistance against Fascism and National Socialism but i guess i’m not up to date on the latest looney left ideology.

a reply to: YouSir

Err....I'm not excusing the rioting.

I don't like racism....or racists.

Neither do I like people rioting for no reason whatsover other than the sake of rioting.
And I don't like people rioting and their faux anger when its a manifestation of their sense of entitlement that is fuelled by political correctness.

I don't like knobheads and arseholes full stop.

Where on earth was I supporting the insane and appalling deaths of the seventeen people you mention?
How did you come to believe that from what I wrote?

That's absolute bollocks of the highest order.

a reply to: Ohanka

Fascism yes but he did use words like "wog" then there is the wads of starving people in India incident or the fact that he deployed tanks on to the streets of his own cities to retard union strikes.

The guy did good WW2 wise all the same, great Man to some, to others, not so much.

No need to be destroying of vandalizing historical statue all the same, as the world may have been a very different place to exist without his contribution to history.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: smurfy

Opps!

I hope somebody in the Police force paid for the repairs to the poor sod's car, nevermind compensated him and any passengers, considering the ordeal he put them through!

The eager little beaver actually looked quite mentally ill waving his wee truncheon around and scrapping away at windows. LoL

Well,
there is quite a bit more to the story, the Met police didn't want the enquiry, but were forced to.
I would hazard a guess that they didn't want too much fuss over the multitool device the policeman used to cut the windscreen as it is seemingly illegal to use, and that same policeman had put it about that many police are using that tool.

I've seen somewhere that damages were settled out of court, the driver also got some glass in his eye, besides the car damage.

a reply to: smurfy

Where i hail from, which is Glasgow, you cannot sue the Police unless they actively show malice towards you.

In this instance, i think that was a given.

But generally, to prove, an actively show of malice, where Police are concerned, they would need to repeat the performance.

God bless smartphone evidence these days, else you simply trip and fall, or have fentanyl or meth in your system.

Its one way or the other with our sheriffs and judges, they ether believe everything Police say verbatim or understand that they are the biggest shower of lying bastards in the land.

Good and bad people from all walks of life all the same.

a reply to: andy06shake

Churchill was a great war time leader and his contribution to WWII can not be over stated.

But he wasn't a very good peace time Prime Minister for the reasons you pointed out.

However, he did support Clement Attlee - in my mind possibly the best PM we've had - and his programmes of economic and social reforms post-WWII.
Churchill put national interest first and to a large extent refused to engage in party politics at a time when we most needed unity.

Many famous people don't quite stand up to modern day scrutiny.
Gandhi is revered the world over for his ideals of peaceful protest etc......yet he thought black people were sub-human and his only disagreement with the apartheid regime in South Africa was that Indian people were categorised alongside the Blacks who he so despised.

a reply to: Freeborn

Just like any other politician the Man was a mixed bag.

Different time different era i suppose.

Judging the people of the past by the standards we hold ourselves to, in this day of age, seldom yields desirable results.

He was who he was, and if he was not, there might not be anybody protesting much.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: andy06shake

Churchill was a great war time leader and his contribution to WWII can not be over stated.

But he wasn't a very good peace time Prime Minister for the reasons you pointed out.

However, he did support Clement Attlee - in my mind possibly the best PM we've had - and his programmes of economic and social reforms post-WWII.
Churchill put national interest first and to a large extent refused to engage in party politics at a time when we most needed unity.

Many famous people don't quite stand up to modern day scrutiny.
Gandhi is revered the world over for his ideals of peaceful protest etc......yet he thought black people were sub-human and his only disagreement with the apartheid regime in South Africa was that Indian people were categorised alongside the Blacks who he so despised.

That's all true and documented, and as regards the police, their behaviour often reflects the governments of the day.

a reply to: Freeborn


Ummm...So what your really saying...is that you don’t like yourself...overmuch...

I’m down with that...

I was there once...until I realized that all the isms I projected onto everyone else...we’re camouflage for my own perceived shortcomings...further...that those perceptions were not shortcomings after all...they were merely a part of self...and the human condition that we all labor under...

That veneer is thin...and built on delusion...

Showing anger about anyone else’s behavior...only points to not exploring why such an angst exists in the first place...
Inevitably...facing the truth about ones perspective derived character flaws...and how they define emotive states...is intuitive...

Learning and recognizing the truth of your nature...need not be guilt by association...rather...it liberates the mind...







YouSir

a reply to: smurfy

.....and as regards the police, their behaviour often reflects the governments of the day.

Indeed.

I lived through The Thatcher years and coming from N.E. England I witnessed first hand her use of the Police during The Miners Strike.
She used them as her own personal enforcers during that and other disputes.

The police were out of control at the time, another example was The Battle of the Beanfield in '85.

The blatant use of agent provocateurs and abuses of power would quite literally be impossible today.....unless the P.R. and propaganda machines kicked into overdrive.

Why are they using horses anyway ?

Those horses don't want to be doing that and they don't f well pay them either .
That's animal cruelty and they're cheapskates.
The horse shed it's rider and went back to it's stable on its own , how do they know what's going on , how do they cope with bikes being thrown at them , obviously not that well and why the fricking hell should they. If it wasn't for those wankers on their backs putting them through that they wouldn't be there, obviously.

Horse Lives Matter too.

a reply to: YouSir

What on earth are you on about.

Plain speak man.

Quote me, give me examples.....its just absolute nonsense you are spouting at present.

Come on, be as direct as possible.
I have thick skin and broad shoulders and am quite hard to anger.

You may think you are doing some pseudobabble job on me but I'm afraid not.

'Isms'?
I'm not one for labelling or pigeon holing.

Two posts on this page and the reality is they amount to absolutely nothing of substance whatsoever.
Liberate yourself and speak freely man.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: YouSir

What on earth are you on about.

Plain speak man.

Quote me, give me examples.....its just absolute nonsense you are spouting at present.

Come on, be as direct as possible.
I have thick skin and broad shoulders and am quite hard to anger.

You may think you are doing some pseudobabble job on me but I'm afraid not.

'Isms'?
I'm not one for labelling or pigeon holing.

Two posts on this page and the reality is they amount to absolutely nothing of substance whatsoever.
Liberate yourself and speak freely man.

Ummm...ok...you asked for it...

You don’t like racists and racism...because you recognize those qualities in your own nature...

You recognize just how much your a racist...and then bend over backwards in an attempt to deflect that realization...

I merely stated that you need not carry that angst...that it’s ok to be human...that there’s nothing wrong with the way you were designed...that’s because everyone is racist...in varying degrees...

It may have sounded to you like I was singling you out...but nothing was personal...



YouSir

a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

Over zealous? Have you ever seen what/who they have to deal with in London?

The officer lost his temper over what was in the grand scale of things was nothing , his actions were unprofessional and not befitting a police officer regardless of what they have to face in London or anywhere else , I can't defend thuggery by a public servant and am surprised you do.

The police are not above the law.