Can someone tell me why President Trump should be thrown out of office

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
The best part of this whole thing is: There will never be a President Joe Biden. There will never be a President Elizabeth Warren and there most definitely will never be a President Sanders.

Better hope not.

Because if there is a president Warren or Sanders we're EFFED.

BIG TIME.

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

HRC was assigned starting WW3 her 2nd 4 years to reduce the USA literally to ashes. Research "the 16 year plan." She's a practicing satanic witch guilty of horrific child sex abuse, dismemberment, cannibalism & sacrificing the remains to satan--all reportedly on video that was on Weiner's laptop under the "Insurance" folder.

originally posted by: andy06shake
What's not real about that?

Honorable my arse.

If you really want to talk about REAL

FIRST

talk about

1. The horrifically real corruption by the Clintons in Arkansas.
2. Then the outrageously intensified, deeper, broader treason, corruption, sex abuse by the Clintons in D.C.
3. The outrageously corrupt treason by the illegal immigrant O'Bama in destroying military readiness; destroying our economy; sending jobs to China; accepting extremely flawed steel for military constructions; destroying the middle class as a major Marxist globalist goal; etc. etc. etc.

TRUMP'S WORST IS FAR BETTER & MORE PATRIOTIC & HONORABLE THAN THE CLINTONS' & O'BAMA'S BEST.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

I have to accept the fact that you appear to be far too devoid of facts & reason to bother attempting any hint of true dialogue any further with.

BTW, Trump will be in a full 8 years.

He will continue to rescue the USA from utter destruction by your buddies the Marxist globalist oligarchy.

a reply to: JoseGarcia

Trumps an utter numptie.

As to him being patriotic, he doesn't exactly ken much about history nevermind patriotism.

To his bank accounts maybe. LoL

It's devotion to and vigorous support for sore feet he's after, the country not so much im afraid.

a reply to: andy06shake

Your ignorance on the topic is shocking.

You appear to know absolutely nothing about TRUMP.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JoseGarcia

1. Required to check with the Ukraine re corruption in high places BY TREATY

FACT: The Pentagon signed off in February of 2019, affirming that the Ukrainian government had met all the USA's anti-corruption benchmarks.

If President Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate the Bidens, he shouldn't have sent his personal attorney to coerce and extort Ukraine officials to do their personal bidding.

Fact: They and Trump signed off in February 2019 before Zelensky was surprisingly elected and began re-arranging the Ukranian government. Ukraine changed, so no, they did not affirm the new government met all the USA's anti-corruption benchmarks.

a reply to: CynConcepts
there were still sign offs due in may

the whole story is not represented here

a reply to: JoseGarcia

Whereas you are obviously related and appear to know everything.

Your own ignorance as to what amounts to patriotism is rather questionable.

Unless you imagine Trump to be some kind of patriotic draft dodger???!!!

And to be honest he's not exactly the ""Conscientious Objector"" type. x

a reply to: shooterbrody

President Zelensky did not officially become President until the end of May when he was actually sworn in.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha


But they did and still are, with the Don McGahn subpoena. The Trump administration's arguments against all the subpoenas are all the same, so only one ruling is needed, for now.

When SCOTUS rules on whether or not the president and his staff and aides and appointees have "absolute immunity", watch for more impeachment hearings stemming from the Mueller report evidence, which the DOJ and the Executive office is blocking House access to.

SOooo here comes the big question, since as you say it is playing out in the courts then how is this even associated with impeachment. If the courts ruling in the end is in favor of the House then everyone abides, end of story, but here we are as it all is apart of the impeachment articles. Do you not see anything strange with that, or at least that they are reaching for straws in what should be black and while.

BTW "absolute immunity" is not going to play into any of this. Executive privilege will. Both Obama and Bush used it too...

a reply to: CynConcepts

Feb. 28: The Pentagon notifies Congress that Ukraine has met the conditions to receive the first batch of fiscal 2019 security assistance, $125 million. The aid includes sniper rifles, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and counter-artillery radars.

May 23: In a follow-up to the earlier notification, the Pentagon tells Congress that Ukraine has met the requirements for the remaining $125 million in assistance, including taking action “to make defense institutional reforms for the purposes of decreasing corruption, increasing accountability, and sustaining improvements of combat capability enabled by U.S. assistance.”

Zelenskiy was elected in April, 2019. It wasn't a military coup. I wasn't a corporate takeover. It was a expected and scheduled, fair and democratic election.

In a letter to OMB Sept. 27, House Budget Chairman John Yarmuth, D-Ky., and Appropriations Chairwoman Nita M. Lowey, D-N.Y., wrote they had “serious concerns that recent apportionment actions” by OMB “to withhold military aid for Ukraine and other foreign assistance constitute unlawful impoundments in violation of” the 1974 budget law. They wrote OMB “took the unusual and seemingly unprecedented step of delegating the authority to execute these apportionments to a political appointee.”

www.rollcall.com...

a reply to: Sookiechacha
yep
all legal

you are invested in a difference of policy between the legislative and the executive

too bad the stupid dems didn't go to the courts as they are directed

originally posted by: musicismagic
I don't live in the States, so I don't have a first hand feel that is what really is going on. Silently, many leaders of their countries are saying this mother fker really has the balls to tell the general public what is really happening and yet the media is slamming him for the truth and even this is overseas.

He shouldn't be.

He is not a globalist - he is undoing the globalist plans - they hate him for it.

They have launched everything they can at him to try and destroy his reputation before trying to kill him, because they don't want him to be a martyr - but so far they have failed.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Executive privilege will. Both Obama and Bush used it too...

But Trump didn't use it. There is a mechanism that triggers executive privilege, and ignoring and ordering staffers to defy subpoenas are not it. Trump's defense "absolute immunity" was introduced in court, after the House sued McGahn and the Trump administration for defying their subpoena.

since as you say it is playing out in the courts then how is this even associated with impeachment.

This goes back to Nadler's first attempt at a impeachment inquiry after the Mueller Report implicated Trump in obstruction of justice, when he ordered Don McGahn to fire Mueller and alter official records.

While The House was waiting for the subpoenas to wind through the courts, Trump brazenly did what the Mueller report was investigating, collusion with a foreign government to effect the presidential election. He did it, bold and out front, bragging about it...."There was no COERSION!"

The House, Nancy Pelosi, basically said, "This is the last straw, we gotta move on this guy like a bitch!"

Any examples of trump being a dictator? No? Just more dem talking points without substance. Just saying it doesn’t make it reality. You know the system is pretty well balanced so it’s not really possible for him or anyone to be a dictator in the presidents seat.

So strike one, any REAL reason why trump should be impeached? Remember Russian collusion failed to be a thing, sharing his taxes isn’t required, grabbing a kitty isnt a problem if it’s purring...

a reply to: dfnj2015

a reply to: Rob808

He seems to keep on bumping his gums about this article 2 thingamabob that bestow all sorts of toys out the pram draconian powers.

Trump: "I have an Article 2 where I have the right to do whatever I want as president".

But apparently nobody ever talks about it, aside from him of course, repeatedly, over and over again.

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: musicismagic
I don't live in the States, so I don't have a first hand feel that is what really is going on. Silently, many leaders of their countries are saying this mother fker really has the balls to tell the general public what is really happening and yet the media is slamming him for the truth and even this is overseas.

No man is above the law. We have a Constitution not a dictatorship. He should be thrown out of office for having no respect for our Constitution and our laws. If Trump is allowed to stay in office it will be a dangerous precedent. Because the next president may be a Democrat. Dictatorship is great as long as your party is the one who is in charge!!!

If no man is above the law, why then wasn't Joe Biden thrown out of his position for threatening to withhold funding from the Ukraine if they didn't sack the prosecutor investigating his sons company (and openly admitted to it on live TV)..?

Isn't it basically the same thing that Trump is accused of..?

originally posted by: JoseGarcia

originally posted by: chr0naut
It is a bit pre-emptive to say what the outcome of the trial may be, but the articles of impeachment present the gist of the prosecutions case.

The articles of impeachment are hollow, farcical, UNConstitutional

Entirely Constitutional.

hogwash trumped up with an outrageously partisan process concocted in the pickled brains of Pelosi & Schiff-4-brains (the bloke who reportedly murdered his 13 year old male sex victim & went ahead & f'd the corpse in full view of multiple witnesses); & Schummer et al.

And your country allows such people to hold office. That's horrific.

Thank goodness that long time friend of Epstein who has also had a case against him in court for pedophilia and all those mafia links, will clean it all up.

Anyone having the least bit of respect for the impeachment articles is either devoid of reason, integrity, Soaked in Kool-Aid; a dedicated Marxist globalist agent; . . . or maybe just low IQ & terminally clueless & idiotic.

Yeah, but you can't denigrate the impeachment process without denigrating the Constitution upon which it is based. Those founding fathers must have been such criminals to set up a government with a balance of power and ways that one branch may control another.

They were concocted to try & vainly prevent TRUMP from prosecuting the horrifically guilty corruptocrats (generations deep Mafioso in Pelosi's case), extreme traitors & child sex abusers.

Again, that is the pot calling the kettle black.

Research things better . . . or don't--you can continue to look absurdly ignorant.

I have researched. Both sides. They are both, allegedly, criminally corrupt, really nasty people. Each side accusing the other of worse and worse outrageous crimes.

Yet, usually crimes have victims and families and law enforcement investigates and those crimes wind up in court. That isn't some hearsay allegation but is evidence that the allegations must have some deeper substance.

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originally posted by: JoseGarcia

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

That's what impeachment is. Impeachment is a constitutional remedy for a duly elected president who has corrupted the office.

HOWEVER, ONLY FOR Constitutionally valid offenses--which Trump has not the least bit of guilt for

Trump vs. the Constitution: A Guide - Politico

and which these impeachment articles have nothing to do with.

The DIMRATS main problem with Trump is they know he is gunning for them for their extreme treason, corruption & child sex abuse.

Connection Between Jeffrey Epstein & Donald Trump Announced In Sunday Tweet - Bipartisan Report

Why is Donald Trump’s Name in Pedophile Epstein’s Little Black Book? - The Freedom Articles

Another Trump Pedophile Lawsuit Emerges - Veterans Today

Jeffrey Epstein: Trump once praised billionaire charged with sex trafficking minors for liking women 'on the younger side' - Business Insider

Donald Trump has paid about $30 million to settle child-sex complaints, including a 2012 incident at Albemarle Estate in Charlottesville, Virginia - Legal Schnauzer

Why Is this Being Hidden From Us? Trump Has Admitted Close Ties To Pedophile Jerry Epstein And The CFR - American Uncensored News Network

and finally..

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originally posted by: JoseGarcia

originally posted by: chr0naut
In what way?

What specific aspects of the Constitution are they trashing? Please quote article, section and clause.

They have little to no respect for law nor the Constitution, nor our foundational values nor the survival of the USA.

Trump has followed our laws more meticulously than the last 12 Presidents combined.

I'm just not an American, so all this talk of patriotism and furious flag waving just looks silly and futile to me.

I don't wish to make the time for that level of detailed response.

1. The farcical impeachment jury-rigged stench in the House was totally devoid of GOP involvement. It was an UnConstitutional, rail-roaded, trumped up outrage of inconsequential screeching on the part of horrific extreme traitors (literally), extremely corrupt politicos & extreme child sex abusers (e.g. Schiff-face's reported raping a 13 year old black boy he'd just murdered with a drug overdose in full view of multiple witnesses).

2. There was no hint of a bona fide Constitutional process involved.

3. There were no truly Constitutional offenses involved.

Since you don't actually seem to have any specifics to offer, perhaps you don't know much about the actual document. Here's the the Wikipedia page on the Constitution so you can go through and pick some things:

Constitution of the United States
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