Should the United States invade Mexico to destroy the Drug Cartels?

Should the US invade Mexico to destroy the Drug Cartels?

War sucks.
We all know it.
At least we should.

The War on Drugs.
We have all heard of it.
Does anyone actually think it is really exist?

“There were 189,000 heroin users in the US in 2001, before the US-NATO invasion of Afghanistan. By 2016 that number went up to 4,500,000 (2.5 million heroin addicts and 2 million casual users). Heroin deaths shot up from 1,779 in 2001 to 10,574 in 2014 as Afghan opium poppy fields metastasized from 7,600 hectares in 2001 (when the US-NATO War in Afghanistan began) to 224,000 hectares in 2016. (One hectare equals approximately 2.5 acres). Ironically, the so-called US eradication operation in Afghanistan has cost an estimated $8.5 billion in American taxpayer funds since the US-NATO-Afghan war started in October 2001.” ( See the article by Sibel Edmonds, August 22, 2017)”

The US military invades Afghanistan yet leaves all the opium fields alone.
Even though those fields are said to provide 90% of the world’s heroin.
The US Central Intelligence Agency trades drugs to those who will fight their battles for them.

We all know these stories.
At least we should.

“The Afghan opium trade continues to be protected by US-NATO occupation forces on behalf of powerful financial interests. Afghanistan’s opium economy is a multibillion dollar operation which feeds the surge of the US heroin market”

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en.wikipedia.org... aine_trafficking


Now I am against the United States playing policeman to the world, but I bring this up because things have gone way overboard.


www.vox.com...

www.drugabuse.gov...

www.foxnews.com...

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time.com...


Mexico is becoming the murder capital of the world.
This is all due to it being run by the drug cartels.
In 2017, over 200 people a day died from drugs in the US.
This too is due in part because of the Mexican drug cartels.

“On average, someone was killed in Mexico every 15 minutes during the month of May, putting the country on track to surpass last year’s grim milestone of 29,168 killings… Political killings have also shot up, with 130 politicians, including 48 candidates for office, murdered since the beginning of the electoral cycle”

“In the United States, more than 72,000 people died from drug overdoses in 2017, which was an increase of about 10 percent over 2016. Since 2000, the U.S. drug overdose death rate has gone from 6.2 per 100,000 people in 2000 to 14.7 per 100,000 in 2014.”

War is basically government sponsored murder. Drug War or not, when there is a war, innocent people die. Innocent people are already dying on both sides of the border. Should the US help itself and help Mexico by causing more people to die – specifically the illegal, evil doing drug lords and their helpers?

Is it too late to begin a real war on drugs? Are there too many secretly getting rich off of it to give up their power? Or has the time come to start doing something about it?

SHOULD THE US INVADE MEXICO TO DESTROY THE DRUG CARTELS?

Mexico sure as hell is not going to do anything about it.

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

We should make all drugs legal.

The idiots would end up killing themselves, the cartels would go out of business, and we wouldn't have to worry about poop on our streets.

Win-Win.

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

no

legalize and destroy the cartels

the war on drugs the government could have and should have ended a long time ago

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

Then where would you get all that lovely Coke and Weed that your nation's populace craves so much?

If we are going to snort it then they are going to shovel it in our direction.

Supply and demand 101 really.

The war on drugs is as imaginary as the war on terror. LoL

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
“There were 189,000 heroin users in the US in 2001, before the US-NATO invasion of Afghanistan. By 2016 that number went up to 4,500,000 (2.5 million heroin addicts and 2 million casual users). The US military invades Afghanistan yet leaves all the opium fields alone.
Even though those fields are said to provide 90% of the world’s heroin.
The US Central Intelligence Agency trades drugs to those who will fight their battles for them.

It sort of sounds like maybe the US ought to forget about Mexico and invade their own CIA as well as burn those Afghan poppy fields to the ground, salt the Earth, and incinerate any future efforts to regrow that crap. Either that or start cutting heroin with Draino and saturate the marketplace with that, making those not currently using opiates too disturbed of the possibility of getting the bad stuff to ever consider trying it and those who are already on it either get off it or end up no longer a drain on society or their communities.

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
The US military invades Afghanistan yet leaves all the opium fields alone.

SHOULD THE US INVADE MEXICO TO DESTROY THE DRUG CARTELS?

Mexico sure as hell is not going to do anything about it.

Looks like you answered your own question.

a reply to: DBCowboy

It has my vote after all legalization would remove the criminality that surrounds the distribution of narcotics.

Nevermind introduce a measure of quality control.

Then tax the produce like any other luxury item and use the proceeds of such to fund proper drug rehabilitation facilities for the people that require such.

It makes perfect sense which is the reason it will never be done.

I think we already tried..... it made them stronger. Reagan administration.

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

nope, more killing doesnt solve squat. Legalize, prepare for the short term hell ride that comes initially with plenty of support groups and educational outreach.

Talk to the kids

I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: spiritualarchitect

Then where would you get all that lovely...Weed that your nation's populace craves so much?

Got that part covered in lots of states fortunately.

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

Simply fly over the fields and kill the crops. Problem solved.

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

At the Very Least, the Cartels should be
classified as Terrorist organizations.

Many years overdue.

S&F

a reply to: spiritualarchitect


That's what I can call thinking out of the box.

I had this idea a long time ago.
1. The government sells the drugs. All of them. Drug use and possession of personal use amounts is decriminalized.
2. Any illegal drug sales will be met with mandatory life in prison. Organized drug activity (like a gang running a production operation) will be met with the death penalty for all involved.
3. The government uses some of the profit to set up rehab and addiction services, as well as safe-use facilities staffed with medical personnel. Social campaigns can be set up to discourage drug use. The parts of the government that profit off of drug sales continue to profit off of drug sales.

The gangs and cartels would face a massive hit to their income and power. You'd be hard-pressed to find someone willing to peddle $20 of something on the street at the risk of life in prison. The worst-case scenario is that they are forced to seek other avenues of income.
Drug users will use drugs whether they're illegal or not. This is obvious and common sense. On one hand, nothing changes, people continue being arrested and having their lives ruined, and gangs and cartels continue wreaking havoc and causing violence. On the other hand, arrests drastically drop which saves the government money, more addicts receive treatment, addiction decreases, deaths decrease, violence decreases, and the government gets an insanely big income bump that they can use to improve various services. What possible downsides are there? That people will buy and use drugs? They already do.

a reply to: DictionaryOfExcuses

Unfortunately, people demand more than just the part you have covered.

Kudos for that by the way, i wish my own nation was so forward thinking where weed is concerned.

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

What about the Cartels specializing in Gun Trafficking and Human Trafficking? Those need to be taken-out too.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: spiritualarchitect
We should make all drugs legal.
The idiots would end up killing themselves, the cartels would go out of business, and we wouldn't have to worry about poop on our streets.
Win-Win.

If they would only kill themselves, I'd agree. Drug addicts cause a lot of collateral human carnage though.

Hell Yes!, they should have done this years ago instead of playing games with us and the whole Goddamn Drug War BS! They had the power back then too. But they let the alphabet agencies take over and play games that effed up many USA citizens lives permanently.
Tsk, tsk...

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: spiritualarchitect

Simply fly over the fields and kill the crops. Problem solved.

Oh hell no. Problem created. Unless of course you want to kill the people too.

We've tried invading and policing countries and their drug problems, its always ended in a huge fail, Mexico wouldn't be any different.