Should the United States invade Mexico to destroy the Drug Cartels?

a reply to: carewemust

That's true but also for the legal variety of drug addicts, aka those who partake alcohol, tobacco, pain medication and even sugar products.

The collateral damage being somewhat different yet nonetheless destructive to those and others around them.

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

Who do you think those drugs are for? Americans!
If they get rid of the cartels there, it will only bring more of them here.

Only one cure, legalization.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: spiritualarchitect

We should make all drugs legal.

The idiots would end up killing themselves, the cartels would go out of business, and we wouldn't have to worry about poop on our streets.

Win-Win.

No, drugs are manufactured unnaturally. Coca is an unnatural product. The only drug that can't kill you is Marijuana and they banned that on purpose. Native Indians use marijuana to help remove parasites. The rest of the drugs that make you high can go to hell.

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

Plain and simple no. As long as it’s illegal all will happen is someone will rise in their place. Has history taught anyone anything?

The only method to kill it is to make it legal. It’s about supply and demand. As long as there is demand there will be supply.

Tax the hell out of it, use to rebuild infrastructure and drug education.

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

how about we stop blaming other countries for our insatiable lust for drugs.

maybe find the root cause to why so many Americans need to be in an altered state in order to feel happiness.... we are a first world country... like other first world countries where drug related deaths are miniscule and happy /comfort of living index dwarfs the #1 world power....
something must give..

that would require too much thinking...new avengers is out!

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

Technically, US had the chance to invade Mexico and end the cartels completely in the 80's or 90's under UN declaration. They lost the chance now. Who ever are the idiots that says UN was a mistake needs to shoot themselves in the foot right now. US fighting on the wrong side as usual.

Legalizing it wouldn't really be the best thing to do, not with our infrastructure to handle the mental issues that come from addiction.

We have a piss poor mental health system, why would you think the chemical dependency system would handle those people any better. I believe that there is a lot of crossover(people) that would be let done tremendously by both if we just legalized it(now).

We need a massive mental health overhall and we need a large increase in facilities to house and treat these people. If we can get that up and running it might be a good time to legalize(all) and then take on the burden of that.

a reply to: spiritualarchitect
The cartels are pretty much run from the States.

It would be bad for business.

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: spiritualarchitect

no

legalize and destroy the cartels

the war on drugs the government could have and should have ended a long time ago

Absolutely.

I wouldn't go as far as legalizing, but decriminalize drugs and under-selling the cartels with prescribed medications is a good idea.

The addicted get clean drugs and medical guidance on getting off them. The criminals go out of business. The authorities can spend more resource on fighting crime.

a reply to: odzeandennz

I don't entirely disagree with you, but this is a problem in all first world countries.
ourworldindata.org...

I'll also make a statement that will almost certainly be taken to be "racist" by some, yet is a statistical fact... most of the countries with higher happiness rankings than the US have far, far, FAR more homogeneous populations. Homogeneous populations tend to share values, priorities, and expectations a lot more closely than "melting pot" countries with higher diversity do. As the European countries have brought in more diversity in the form of refugees, their happiness indexes have dropped. Countries in Europe which isolated themselves from that, like Poland and the Czechs, have seen their happiness indexes climb while their neighbors were slipping. I will grant the potential for an error of causality here, but it's something which seems to reappear everywhere in the world which has dealt with the refugee and immigrant crisis... more refugees = your country's health, wealth, and happiness indexes dropping.

a reply to: MisterSpock

You realize this all exists today? If we tax it we can have funds to improve it.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

They also don’t have legal guns and have much higher tax rates and are much more socialistic. So what’s your point? Less diversity = less freedom ... you want freedom you deal with diversity.

Diversity doesn’t equal drug addiction. Drugs have always been an issue in the United States longgggggg before we have become more of a melting pot.

People forget what happened during prohibition.

If you REALLY want to know and understand how the international drug trade works, check out the book Dope Inc.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: spiritualarchitect
The cartels are pretty much run from the States.

No they're not. They're deeply rooted in Mexico. The big cartel bosses want nothing to do with living in the States, it's way to risking for them when they can own states, cities and the gov officials that run them, without any persecution or impunity..

Umm..NO
Only a fool thinks you can wipe anything out to begin with. Sure, you might take out one, that gives a competing one a boost, you cannot end it.
Legalise or decriminalise

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: spiritualarchitect

Simply fly over the fields and kill the crops. Problem solved.

A very simplistic, unworkable answer to a very complex issue..I'm not surprised.

Any objections to the militias handling it since the government doesn’t seem to want to do so?

a reply to: MisterSpock

I get what you are saying but, the infrastructure could be well funded with the billions not going to the war on drugs.

originally posted by: Ahabstar
Any objections to the militias handling it since the government doesn’t seem to want to do so?

It's truly what is needed this late in the game. And I can see with members even on ATS leaving for the border the

The MILITIA has awoke!

No, every single time we have assisted or directly tried to "take care" of the cartels worse people take over.