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originally posted by: celltypespecific
a reply to: Baablacksheep
You are not allowed you say.
Eyes rolling again.
Lol I am serious... I was penalized by last time I did this... for those who were on this site earlier this morning they know what happened. I am not allowed to comment so I will leave the subject alone until after the interview.
originally posted by: 1ofthe9
Roswell and 1952 Washington DC photos?! LOL
originally posted by: Willtell
From here there’s nowhere for them to go. What can they report on next?
AATIP, that we know about…the AATIP that studies nuts and bolts saucers…case of UFOs that have encounters with military units such as the USS Nimitz. That is studied by a group of people, Lue Elizondo was the head of it.
It’s not so much a program as it was a loose network of intelligence officials in different agencies, including the Air Force & the Navy, CIA, DIA, DARPA…there might be a couple of other agencies.But a case would come in from any one of their units and it would be shared with this group of people. Analysis would be done. Evidence would be looked at and then stashed in a draw and nobody ever sees it. It’s not passed up the chain of command.
In 2007, that changed. One of the guys I met with in this meeting in Washington is the one who changed it. He had been in the same position that Lue Elizondo had been in. And his name is just not out there. He grew frustrated with what was happening with the phenomenon and he suspected that UFOs flying around the sky, buzzing our military units every once in a while, is not the full story. Even if you could solve that part of the mystery it wouldn’t solve the bigger part of the picture.
So he grew interested in Skinwalker Ranch and he had read the (Knapp/Kelleher – “Hunt For The Skinwalker”) book. And after he read it, he called up Bob Bigelow and said…actually, he wrote him a letter and said, “Hey, can I go to the ranch…go look around? I’m with the DIA.” Bigelow says, “Come on out to Las Vegas and I’ll take you there.” And that’s what happened. He flew to Las Vegas. They flew on Bigelow’s jet. They went to the ranch. This guy’s not there fifteen minutes and he has an experience. And I’m not gonna go into detail. I’m hoping that he’s going to maybe come forward at some point and describe his experience. But it was just for him. Of all the people in this room, in the encounter, he was the only one who could see it. He’s the only one who had an angle on this thing that appeared. And he’s pretending that he’s not seeing it but it’s right out of the corner of his eye. And he doesn’t say anything until he leaves the ranch. And he gets off and he asks Bigelow if he had seen it. And he had not. The other people who had been in the room had not seen it.
He flies back to Las Vegas, goes back to Washington, D.C. and looks up Harry Reid and tells him about it. Now Reid had some experience in these matters that I’ll get into in a little bit. But as a result of that conversation, Reid, who had an interest in UFOs and had maintained that interest over many years – and I can attest to that personally – called in a couple of his friends in the Senate – Daniel Inouye and Ted Stevens. They had a conversation in a secure room and they decided to provide some funding for a much broader study. Something that looked at…beyond flying saucers, that looked at other paranormal aspects…supernatural aspects that we would not normally associate with aliens or ETs. Assuming that that’s what this is, which I’m not sure anyone knows for sure. And that is how AAWSAP was born. The Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application program.
originally posted by: 1point92AU
originally posted by: ManyMasks
a reply to: 1point92AU
I'm not arguing that was my point, one guy says UFO and the other guy says he can't identify what it is.
The guy who says he can't identify wins on my account because it is unidentified but it may not be an object and it may not be flying.
Ultimately.. who cares.
How many accounts are you logged in under right now?
You're Guest 101 and ManyMasks.
As Guest101 you are wrong in your assertion if I take my phone camera and film a flare that the flare will rotate while the background remains static.
As ManyMasks you are wrong about "arguing semantics" as my post was crystal clear and not open to interpretation.
At least your primary user name (ManyMasks) checks out.
originally posted by: zazzafrazz
Skinwalker is no more weird than a bunch of other spooky places around the states (imo). Go the The Trans Allegheny Lunatic Asylum and then camp in the Appalachia between there, Point Pleasant (mothman) and Flatwoods and you'll see some weird shizz
I remember when fantastical beliefs went fully mainstream, in the 1970s. My irreligious mother bought and read The Secret Life of Plants, a big best seller arguing that plants were sentient and would “be the bridesmaids at a marriage of physics and metaphysics.”......
During the ’60s, large swaths of academia made a turn away from reason and rationalism as they’d been understood..... All approximations of truth, science as much as any fable or religion, are mere stories devised to serve people’s needs or interests. Reality itself is a purely social construction, a tableau of useful or wishful myths that members of a society or tribe have been persuaded to believe....
The borders between fiction and nonfiction are permeable, maybe nonexistent. The delusions of the insane, superstitions, and magical thinking? Any of those may be as legitimate as the supposed truths contrived by Western reason and science. The takeaway: Believe whatever you want, because pretty much everything is equally true and false.
...Michel Foucault published Madness and Civilization in America, echoing Laing’s skepticism of the concept of mental illness; by the 1970s, he was arguing that rationality itself is a coercive “regime of truth”—oppression by other means. Foucault’s suspicion of reason became deeply and widely embedded in American academia.
Essentially everything that became known as New Age was invented, developed, or popularized at the Esalen Institute. Esalen is a mother church of a new American religion
originally posted by: celltypespecific
a reply to: Willtell
Looks like I have been kicked out of the TTSA FAN CLUB ...
A hive mind describes a group mind in which the linked individuals have no identity or free will and are possessed / mind controlled as extensions of the hive mind. It is frequently associated with the concept of an entity that spreads among individuals and suppresses or subsumes their consciousness in the process of integrating them into its own collective consciousness. The concept of the group or hive mind is an intelligent version of real-life superorganisms such as an ant colony or beehive.
I think she should officially task NORAD with collection and analysis responsibility. Simultaneously, she should assign the Office of Science and Technology Policy the job of reviewing available evidence, coordinating with other countries and providing scientific assessments and recommendations.
originally posted by: coursecatalog
originally posted by: ConfusedBrit
originally posted by: Sublant
I don't particularly like Fravor, but he is an expert on these matters and he experienced the tic-tac first hand.
Why don't you like him?
originally posted by: mirageman
The whole article is one long read, most will ignore, about how this "fantasy-industrial complex" was invented. A social commentary on everything you see, hear and read on and beyond this forum and why people think less and "feel" more about their own truth.