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originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: 1point92AU
Are you a "fighter pilot" or a "video game programmer" if your neither, then you are as well qualified as the rest of us to comment.
As you see here, the CIA establishes what they referred to as The Weird Desk. Developing and researching technologies such as psychotronic weaponry and using psychics (remote viewers ~Joe) to collect military intelligence.
Down at Monroe, on the Gateway Course, Ed Dames and his fellow trainees heard the stories about McMoneagle's OBE's---plus some stranger ones.
One time, for example, Bob Monroe had given Joe McMoneagle a target to remote-view, and McMoneagle had described an evolution-promoting energy being who had somehow come to Earth many years ago…
Another less well-known entity, "Miranon," from somewhere else in space and time, seemed actually to possess Bob Monroe one day in the early 80's, speaking through him like a spirit through a medium. In effect, Monroe's OBE session had turned into a "channeling" session…
Remote Viewers: The Secret History of America's Psychic Spies
October 1983 (training target) -- Targeting cue: geographic coordinates of Clearwater Lake, Missouri and the date March 27, 1973. Remote viewer, Joe McMoneagle, described the following:
Just see a white streak of light across my northwest. See some others, three or four. Seems to go to the ground and stop. Slits blinking, looks like an explosion, some kind of violent explosion, but it's a strange from. It folds in instead of out. Getting like a strange ... a, wait a minute ... like an abnormal energy source of some kind. It folds in instead of out, like dematerializing.
See another streak going away to the mountain, turning sharp right, heading south, southwest. See two others, now they're just lights, like cones hovering. Ah, wait a minute, I'm having trouble ... I keep trying to get close and I can't; it's something strange about time, different time formats. I don't understand. Wait a minute. The light is hollow, like reflection. See multiple figure eights tied together. I'm getting really confused. A place is right date but lights are wrong date. It's like one's not, not a real participant in reality.
I'm turning a light into a large disk or oblong ... it's changing shape.
Joe went on to describe a powerful encounter with a being and became somewhat disoriented.
...During these sessions Skip and Bob were able to monitor physiological changes from electrodes placed on Joe's fingers. During one of audit sessions, Skip decided to use geographic coordinates of some unusual formations, possibly artificial structures, on the planet Mars. Dr. Puthoff from SRI in Menlo Park had provided him with these coordinates some years earlier and he had been waiting for an opportunity to use them.
Joe reclined with headphones in a soundproofed, darkened room in the lab at The Monroe Institute and Bob Monroe and Skip Atwater sat in the adjacent control room. ..Bob adjusted Joe's audio patterns. Joe seemed very deep (slowed respiration; slurred speech; incomplete sentences) -- a good sign. He usually did well when he really got into the process. When he began to describe an arid climate in some distant place, Skip knew he was probably on target.
Skip reviewed the list of Martian coordinates provided by Dr. Puthoff and directed Joe to "move" in time to the period designated in the sealed envelope, then from his present locale (so to speak) to the next set of coordinates on the list. ...Perceiving the time period one million years BC Joe reported the "aftereffect of a major geologic problem."
When asked to move to a time before the geologic problem (perhaps thousands or tens or hundreds of thousands of years) he reported a "total difference" in the terrain. He also found a "shadow" of "very large" people. Joe went on to explain that by "shadow" he meant that they weren't there anymore. Once again I asked Joe to move, to remote view, back in time-to the period when the people were still there (again, perhaps thousands or tens or hundreds of thousands of years). Joe described "very large people" who were "wearing very strange clothes" and much more about what happened to them.
As it turned out Joe described eight different coordinate-designated locations on Mars.
...At one point Joe was in telepathic contact with one of the Martians. During this deep-contact period Joe's skin-potential voltage (measured from finger electrodes) reversed polarity-crossing the zero or null point-indicating a discrete shift in perception.
After the session Bob and Skip debriefed Joe before revealing the contents of the sealed envelope. Joe reiterated his feeling of having been "a long way off" and that this session was very different than his previous remote-viewing experiences. Joe did a great job during this audit session.
The importance of this remote viewing for Joe McMoneagle (and the rest of us) extends far beyond the implications it may have for the exploration of the planet Mars in the 21st Century. Joe was able to extend his consciousness across millions of miles and millions of years (in terms of space/time reality).
This must have had a tremendous impact on Joe's concept of self. He not only experienced his consciousness extending beyond the confines of his physical body, but also reaching across our solar system, spanning millennia, and bonding (telepathically?) with another being. If this is an example of what we as human beings are capable of, then just who are we?
Atwater became a regular visitor to the institute, as did Joe McMoneagle, and Colonel John Alexander…Students in the main course, Gateway Voyage, would lie in small, darkened cubicles--"Controlled Holistic Environmental Chambers"--for several hours a day, for five days straight.
They lay semi- or completely naked, under blankets, listening to Hemi-Sync tapes and experiencing weird visual phenomena, or disembodied voices, or vivd memory flashbacks, or full-blown OBE's...
Remote Viewers: The Secret History of America's Psychic Spies
A reporter for The Hook, weekly newspaper for Charlottesville, Virginia, who visited The Monroe Institute said, "...with a few exceptions, the only 'normal' people with whom I could fully identify were the trainers, who seemed remarkably well-grounded for people whose day-to-day experiences include astral projection and disembodied spirits".
The reporter also concluded that "there is something significant being developed at the Institute. Whether it's just a brilliant guided meditation (complete with trance-inducing stereoscopic sound) or a doorway to a world of spirit entities, I cannot say".
From here there’s nowhere for them to go. What can they report on next?