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Well we've seen the PhD physicist completely miscalculate the acceleration on the Nimitz video and we'd think he has pretty good expert credentials, but it happens, though I can understand his oversight a lot more easily than I can understand these so-called "experts" who can't identify what is obviously a time exposure when they see one.
originally posted by: The GUT
a reply to: Arbitrageur
You seem to be making some presumptions not indicated in the info about Dorothy. Although I'm not saying you might not have some points. We'll see.
First, you understand Dorothy was shooting motion pictures on film not stills? Second, have you seen the docu or read more about her or are you going by the information contained in my post?
I'm not one to just believe an "expert." However the experts I've read aren't still photography hobbyists as I recall you being if I'm not mistaken?
This is just some random picture I pulled from Flickr. Forget the scenery, look at the pattern of the light trails. I kept noticing similar patterns over and over as I watched the lady's film. You see how the streaks of light all have the same shape? That's an indication that the camera was moving during the taking of the photo. Over and over as I watched the video, I kept noticing these repeated shapes. There's be fairly static pictures of 3 or 4 lights, then a frame with 3 or 4 streaks that had similar shapes. I'd keep trying to look at these pictures non-judgmentally, and my brain would just keep saying 'but that's camera shake. You've seen it a million times.'
What I found strange was that nobody considered the possibility that it arises out of a fault in the camera.
Now, I know something about film (aka movie) cameras (video too, but I am nostalgic about film cameras). I've shot with 8mm cameras, 16mm cameras, and 35mm cameras. I'm not a cinematographer, but I do work in the film world and I've owned 8mm and 16mm cameras, and am able to perform basic maintenance and repairs on them. So I sometimes buy a broken camera on eBay if I am pretty sue what's wrong with it, fix it, and maybe make a few bucks. Or not. I just like fixing things, and I like the feel of shooting film although it's too expensive for me to do regularly.
Well, what I see here is called a 'registration problem'. The lady is shooting with an 8mm camera...
My guess is that the specific thing with the camera is that it has a broken gear tooth which causes the shutter mechanism to jam open briefly, and not too often. Bear in mind that gears are designed by engineers to use numbers of teeth which will spread wear evenly over the gear, so a damaged tooth on a gear does not mean that such a shutter error would occur every second or even regularly. Camera film is not tensioned tightly inside a movie camera (as it would break easily) so the problem could be quite intermittent. It might only occur when the film tension is above or below a certain threshold, or under a variety of other conditions.
This video is most curious as it is showing a lot of the same characteristics as seen in Dorothy Izatt's movies only this is in Digital and not 8 mm. Fantastic!
originally posted by: ArMaP
I have a video that looks like that, it was easy to do, with a Canon MV730i.
originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: celltypespecific
Pat the thirsty groupie kids on their heads, allude to being an upper echelon member of a UFO secret knowledge.
These people are meant to be scientists, who the hell does he think he is?
What a thirsty-try-hard loser, lol.