Big guy punches 11 year old girl in the face

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Is it ever Ok for a grown man to punch a young girl? keep in mind this girl is not yet a teen, she is still considered a child.

I guess the question here, is at what point is an adult allowed to defend themselves, even against children?
There is a part of me as a parent that says, ok this guy is big and he should know not to hit a young girl.
The rational part of me sees that this guy is being surrounded and he already pushed her away once. Does he have to wait to get completely
jumped or hurt himself to fight back?

He obviously felt threatened well before the incident;
"The six foot, five inch, 250-pound Bell asked staff to call for help while he escorted the woman from the bookstore. Forty seconds of a tense exchange captured on video showed the group of kids encircling Bell, who yelled at them to “break it up.”

Geez he didn't even pull his punch even a little... That is the definition of KO

Even a little dog is dangeous if there are enough of them. The kids were behaving like a pack.

originally posted by: watchandwait410
Geez he didn't even pull his punch even a little... That is the definition of TKO

Not sure this excuses it but from the story

"had been suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder and a brain injury."

a reply to: JAGStorm

He would have done that to my kid the cops would have been arresting me. He should have walked away.

a reply to: JAGStorm

He will get off they assaulted him 1st , where do you draw the line they were being aggressive and could of had concealed weapons . I'd like to say I wouldn't do it but I just might you never know Age means nothing now days .

originally posted by: Prisoner60863
a reply to: JAGStorm

He would have done that to my kid the cops would have been arresting me. He should have walked away.

If you read the story, that is exactly what he was trying to do, walk away and help another woman get away.


"Steven Bell, 51, "observed a large pack of youths harassing a woman” at Barnes & Noble, so he stepped in to help,"

In My day a group of preteens would have never even pulled this BS because this is what the adults would do to you.

originally posted by: Prisoner60863
a reply to: JAGStorm

He would have done that to my kid the cops would have been arresting me. He should have walked away.

Yes, but would your kid have been part of a pack harassing someone like that?

Probably not the best thing to do there, but I've seen too many people get jumped by large groups.

Get your retaliation in first.

originally posted by: notsure1
In My day a group of preteens would have never even pulled this BS because this is what the adults would do to you.

Back in my day every parent, and even people that weren't your parents would have "straightened" you out if they saw this nonsense.
Us kids were scared of adults, it seems the world has reversed.

a reply to: ketsuko

No my child is a pretty good kid and would not be in a crowd like that. My kid knows better than to disrespect an elder.

I got shoved into the wall in the middle school I was teaching at during a fight between girls. We're talking 6th graders and 7th graders in a pack. The fight headed into the restroom by my classroom and I simply tried to stand in the doorway. One kid wasn't going by, but the pack sure did, and I went into the wall as a consequence.

So don't make the mistake of thinking that little girls in a group are just sweet little things. They can move you as an adult because they're a mob, and a mob is stronger than you are.

I see no problem here, in fact by the way they are acting they should all line up and each get a shot from this guy.
Consider it a life lesson, they obviously aren't getting many lessons from their parents.

originally posted by: Prisoner60863
a reply to: ketsuko

No my child is a pretty good kid and would not be in a crowd like that. My kid knows better than to disrespect an elder.

Well then, you don't have to worry about your child getting punched in the face do you? See how that works.

originally posted by: Prisoner60863
a reply to: ketsuko

No my child is a pretty good kid and would not be in a crowd like that. My kid knows better than to disrespect an elder.

So there you go. Your response as a parent doesn't matter because your kid would have known better as would mine. Ask yourself what your response as a parent is when you look at the little girl holding the hand of the woman who is also surrounded by the same pack of girls. As parent, what would you do if they were surrounding you and your little girl?

What the hell happened to respecting your elders ? saying yes sir and no sir ?

11 years old and shes acting like that?

originally posted by: notsure1
What the hell happened to respecting your elders ? saying yes sir and no sir ?

11 years old and shes acting like that?

It's a breakdown in society. Mom is likely a single parent and is likely not in the house, so these kids more or less raise themselves. School cannot discipline them, not like they need. So they've never learned what it is to really respect anyone except for maybe people who can beat the ever living crap out of them which just mainly means their peers who will do it.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: notsure1
What the hell happened to respecting your elders ? saying yes sir and no sir ?

11 years old and shes acting like that?

It's a breakdown in society. Mom is likely a single parent and is likely not in the house, so these kids more or less raise themselves. School cannot discipline them, not like they need. So they've never learned what it is to really respect anyone except for maybe people who can beat the ever living crap out of them which just mainly means their peers who will do it.

That's a big leap to make. I'm not arguing that this group of kids are horrible examples of well-behaved children, but I'd also say there's absolutely no way for you to know any of what you said.

a reply to: notsure1

It's a breakdown in our society , My Son was 17 suffering from internet depression got mad at me for shutting off the internet for not doing his homework mad dogging me so I got nose to nose with him then he hit me in the face like 5 times , I restrained him by his shirt my wife called the cops , They wanted me to press charges on him but I refused So they decided to arrest me because his neck was red from me holding him down by his flannel .. That's the way life is now and the lesson our society is teaching kids nowadays .