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Are the French protesting Taxes or Muslims?

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posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 11:33 AM
Well, when they keep on inviting migrants when they can't even take care of their own, # like this is expected.

The Muslim migrants are sacrificial lambs to make idiots like Macron look useful. After they are done pointing their rifles at their own citizen, who will be next?

I wonder how many of the migrants have an idea of basic economics.

edit on 10-12-2018 by Specimen because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 12:18 PM

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
Looks like a reaction to everything the EU has foisted upon Europeans; over-taxation and regulation, open borders and a seeming bias towards immigrants instead of citizens. The socialist utopia isn't selling any more.

So those of you this point view.. Have you even checked out what the yellow vest are demanding?

Apparently not.

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 12:44 PM

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JAGStorm

Macron is the French version of Hillary.

Really all that needs to be said.

All that needs to be added to your 'all that needs to be said is', is the word Macrillary

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 12:46 PM

getting policies not voted for and being told what to do

...bang on, but I'd add 'being told what to think'...

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 12:49 PM

..a seeming bias towards immigrants instead of citizens. The socialist utopia isn't selling any more.

Ah ...well it is to immigrants

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 12:49 PM

originally posted by: Bloodworth
The last 8 years many leaders of countires spent more time helping import muslims then working on better conditions for their citizens.

It had cost a lot of money to import those people and even more money to maintain the presence.
Especially the police forces that need to constantly babysit them.

And now the governments needs more money from their people in the form of taxes.

Personally I think they increase the migration just to have a reason to spend more on defense and security.
Government doesn't care about citizen health and relies entirely on security presence to protect itself from things like protest etc. 9/11 is a good example of when security spending wasn't good enough.

Earth has already more than passed max capacity.

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 01:08 PM
a reply to: Raggedyman

Kind of a bull# statement...extremely smalls numbers...the reality is legal immigration is at a all time high right now.

People do not want illegals here in the millions all trying to bypass the legal way or just wanting to take advantage of our system.

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posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 02:09 PM

originally posted by: Flavian
It started as protests about fuel tax rises but as with all things French, simply morphed into a general protest. Now, it is really about poverty and the cost of living, which it is actually hard to criticise.

The gap between rich and poor is much greater than it has ever been in history. Corporate greed has ensured that the wealth distribution is incredibly poor.

I actually support capitalism but something does need to be done to reduce this gap.

The go green liberals are pissed off France and most of Europe still use dirty diesel fuel for their cars.

They are pushing to make a majority of cars. Regular gassed powered

And or course a majority of people think its unnecessary. But the go green liberals know what's best for the masked and if wont covert to regular gas on your own free will.

They will make it too expensive to buy, forcing people to go to other methods.

And they will try the same In America.
A very small percentage of cars use diesel, so they are going after regular gas.

They want people to ditch fossil fuel gas and move towards electric and natural gas.

And when the decision is made, gas prices will skyrocket in the u.s. , as it's the liberals method of force people into things.

The elites and gov officials are completely blind to their citzens demands. They are led by a small group who believe they knows what's best for the world .

And anyone with common sense can see it's a disaster.

But in frances case. They just had the opportunity to vote liberal or conservative and its showing.

The u.s will vote anything non trump without even thinking about the consequences and bankruptcy liberals bring to the table

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 02:15 PM
a reply to: DBCowboy

Macron reminds me of what the anti-Christ would be like imo

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 05:47 PM

originally posted by: Xtrozero
a reply to: Raggedyman

Kind of a bull# statement...extremely smalls numbers...the reality is legal immigration is at a all time high right now.

People do not want illegals here in the millions all trying to bypass the legal way or just wanting to take advantage of our system.

I don't know who said extremely small numbers anywhere

posted on Dec, 13 2018 @ 06:12 PM
Hi there,

seems there is some confusion i'll share an update, hope it will help.

Actually the french movement is a melting pot of many different groups that at some point choose to march side by side in order to shake the political structure hence to have results, we are having a hard time with the unification of this mouvement by the way.

this movement started quite some time (years) ago, got silent and started again with the strenght you most likely know, just to make it clear 80% of the french population actually support this movement.

to give a bit of context :

you may work you're ass off and you're not having a descent living, while the gouv spend mindelssly our hard given income, for exemple Macron is actually giving 20 bilions per year thanks to the CIE, we the people get nothing from this, that money just go to some big corporations. with 20 billions you could clearly do some intersting stuf...

the unemployement rate is exploding, that clearly doesn't help.

Most of our minister have resigned since the election of Macron saying the direction given was an absurdity and they refused to keep participating / supporting this politics.

rape is now not conidered as a crime anymore, no matter your age you have to prove your were not concentent, i insist, no matter your age. more over the education system is now forcing our child to learn ( and parents cannot make their child skip this, it is mandatory ) , to learn what sexuality is, there is a big depravation in the scholar system, and most child psychiatrist made a petition sayng we were opening the door that will lead the future generation to be sexually amoral.
Those 2 things together have clearly putted a lot of tension socialy speaking, once again french people said no to this... yet this is now part of the law ....

the people asked for monsento and roundup to be banned, it was audited between midnight and 4th Am, no one were present except the 84 scumbag that voted for, so we have to keep it....

The people asked to remove the palm oil or reduce it, the governement did otherwise

taxes are comming on every thing to a point were we cannot be confident about any possible future, we ask for a taxes cut and our "smic" (minimum salary ) to be augmented so we could relaunch our economy by having a financial activity it is as simple as that.

our president do not want to listen, escaping his role as a president and hiding behinf the EU so we joined together to force our voice to him / to them, that lead to the actual movement of the yellow jacket. movement that is now spreading to belgium and luxembourg and more.

At this point other revendications have added themselves
teacher that do not agree with what they are forced to teach and the number of student in class that no longer allow a proper teaching, students who want a reform regarding school exams, liberals (medical staffing for instance) that are working with worse and worse condition, even cops are starting to join in, and so on...

We now include in the many revendication the right to have our own financial system and this is now becomming a major request, to leave the EU and it will most likely (i hope so) extent to the ONU and OTAN but that part is still not sure.

We wand our republic to change and adapt to a participative model to ensure that we the people will be listen to. this is a more and more pushing request.

if that were to happen some wishes for interpol to interfere in order to cut the debt that were builded between bankers and / or politics. but thats at the moment a minority. (though they are more and more present on social media )

French gov were for the sensorship on internet - the so call "fake news" while we are for the freedom of speech and the freedom to access any given information. ( FOIA )

so you see we are quite a vast movement yet we are not showing a strong unity as little by little people join and add their stuff. globally the above summ thing up. we are now trying to stabilize this so we can keep pushing more and more, at this point it's nearly do or die as we will not back down.

We are not against immigration nor muslim however immigration shouldn't be done at the detriment of our economy / country, the marrakesh treaty was signed without the concent of the population in a time of national crysis where our elite no longer represent us, so it added oil to the fire if i may say.

also if we are to speak about immigration the EU is weak in that aspect we have seen that already. that's why germany and italy are more and more aggressive on that part of their politics, we (French) want to accept people only if we are able to. how can i help someone if i'm not able to help myself in the first place ?
In term of religion the french movement bypass religion and politics as we have setted our differences apart, we are all siding out there to right the wrong.

So no this is not about muslim nor about any other religion this is about the people making their voice and maybe, maybe changing their democracie. Once again i hope so.
Obviously it is the french people not a specific group nor an external one, so no it's not made or oriented by any religious group, it really is the people.

This is not a revolution as we want to sort it out peacefully but it might very well escalade quickly if things keep going the way they are.

Thanks for reading, hope that cleared things up, i wish you good night.
Best regards
edit on 13-12-2018 by lagunalionheart because: corrected a part

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