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Riots in France, Belgium, and Germany? All over gas taxes?

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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Migration is only one point on a long list of demands.


On migration policy

• "That the causes of forced migration are addressed." The number of migrants worldwide is estimated at 258 million in 2017, 3.4% of the world population. Among them, 68.5 million are forced displacement, estimated the Office of the High Commissioner for refugees of the United Nations, which explains them by the "effects of the crisis in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the war in South Sudan" and "the leak of" hundreds of thousands of refugees to Bangladesh from Myanmar's Rohingya [Burma]".

To stem the migration, leaving mainly from developing countries, the richest countries rely on official development assistance. In 2017, this assistance has reached $ 146 billion (130 billion euros) worldwide. The France ranks 5th in volume of aid, with $ 11.4 billion (slightly more than EUR 10 billion) this year there (0.43% of the gross national income) - sales up 15% compared to 2016, noted Les Echos .

If Emmanuel Macron promised during his campaign to bring this figure to 0.55% of gross national income by the end of the quinquennium, that goal is still far from the promise made by France in 1982 to reach the 0.7% of GNI from here in the year 2000.

• "Asylum seekers be treated well. We owe them the housing, security, food and education for minors. Work with the United Nations to host camps are open in many countries of the world, pending the outcome of the asylum." The Bill, asylum and immigration, adopted by Parliament in August 2018, notably extends the maximum detention of migrants of 45 to 90 days. Deadlines to file his case and make remedies, on the other hand, was strictly limited. Review: the Bill is considered more "farm" as"humanist" by associations.

• "That asylum denied are returned to their country of origin." The France recorded a little more than 100,000 requests for asylum in 2017, a historic level. Among these claimants, only a third (36%) were granted refugee status. But all the others (they have been unsuccessful in 2017 or before) have not been extended to the border.

Thus, "we removed 26,000 people last year with an increase of 14% of the forced removals" which represented 14 000 case on the first eleven months of the year, assured in January 2018 Gérard Collomb, Minister of the Interior at the time.

• "What a real integration policy is implemented. "Live in France means to become french (course of French language, history of the France and civic education with certification at the end of the course courses)." "Any applicant for French citizenship is called to appear before a prefecture for an individual maintenance officer. This interview is intended to verify, under article 21-24 of the civil Code, that the applicant has such sufficient knowledge of history, culture and the French company", recalls the site of the Ministry of the Interior.

For this, a 28-page booklet of the citizen is made available to applicants, who recalled the "principles" and "values of the French Republic", but also "French political organization" and a few "historical reminders" (birth and death of Joan of Arc or Charles de Gaulle, enlightenment philosophy, dates of the world wars, etc.).

franceinfo (translated)

As you see, migration itself isn't actually the issue here.



The elephant in the room that none of those guys want to talk about is the migrant crisis.


They call it a red-tape crisis for a reason.




posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: Lagomorphe




And then he goes on to announce freezes in electricity and natural gas prices until May 2019 and warned protesters against more disruptions.


Uhm... err... let's just sit this out until spring next year and everything will be ok! Right? Right.

Wait! What?



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: username74
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

ruh-roh..
"protester sniper occupy rooftop during anti macron riot paris france"
can we confirm this?
get an id on weapons, uniforms, and locations?
sorrry about the vid source site. looks like it keeps getting pulled.
www.investmentwatchblog.com... o-circulating-may-show-someone-getting-shot/
12160.info...
www.bestgore.com...

bestgore.com wtf?!
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you can hear the sniper talking to his spotter.
sounds english?


you can hear the sniper talking to his spotter.
sounds english?


Apparently it has been confirmed that the videos filmed by Reuters did show a sniper above the drugstore.

You can Google translate the information from here : www.rtl.fr...

What is strange is if you look at the video in the link you provided, just after the person slumps to the floor there is what appears to be a tracer bullet fired in the same direction from somewhere above!

I might be wrong but it looks too darned quick and coming in from a high angle to be a gas cannister.
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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: Lagomorphe

maybe two different squads mis coordinated and doubled up on a target or used one shot as cover to fix range with a tracer.
the weapon looks to be
www.bing.com...
which would likely make these guys GIGN.
www.quora.com... pecial-forces

not good. remember 'maidan'.
that was a mix of mercenaries and mossad.
these guys sound like they maybe speak english.
can anyone isolate the audio?
theres other shots in the background.

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link failure. copypaste

www.quora.com...
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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:00 AM
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a reply to: Lagomorphe

thats a different sniper but yep, they look like GIGN, see his sidearm. same rifle as the other squad.
guess microns going the mary antoinette route.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: username74
a reply to: Lagomorphe

thats a different sniper but yep, they look like GIGN, see his sidearm. same rifle as the other squad.
guess microns going the mary antoinette route.


Yep looks like GIGN.

The CRS who are not affiliated to the GIGN (who are the army in reality) claimed that Snipers were not deployed.

Snipers have been deployed in the past for major events in France since the recent spate of terrorist attacks and were probably deployed for that purpose only for the Yellow vest protests as this would be a prime target for terrorists sadly.

Just look at what happened at the Bataclan and in Paris that same evening!

Last example to date when snipers were deployed was last years Rolling Stones concert in Paris or the festival de Cannes.
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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:21 AM
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a reply to: Lagomorphe

beg your pardon it actually its the same guy but his squads gone.

"The CRS who are not affiliated to the GIGN (who are the army in reality) claimed that Snipers were not deployed. "

well they are lying... unsuprisingly.

from there own admission.
"All of the GIGN members are certified Snipers (basic Training on Accuracy .308 and .338), which makes GIGN the Special Forces group with the most Snipers in the world."
stay frosty laggy.
i lived in france for nearly as long as you.
no ones gonna look after a rosbif

"The group owns more than 100 Accuracy International rifles of all calibers (at an average cost (incl. all accessories) $25.000 per gun), mainly:

• AW in .338 Lapua Magnum caliber (8.6 × 70 mm) or (8.58 × 70 mm)
• AWS with a silencer (combined .308 ammunition "Sub" subsonic) and the only one of the three to have a folding butt.
• AW SM .338 Lapua Magnum (8.6 × 70 mm)
The telescope used is the Schmidt & Bender Mk.II 3-12 × 50 with a Mil-Dot reticle 30 × 30 mm with with a luminescent red crosshair of changeable intensity.
The GIGN has special camouflage equipment for these guns (French Army diagrams like Central Europe, desert, and speckled DPM English German Bundeswehr). "
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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:33 AM
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"The CRS who are not affiliated to the GIGN (who are the army in reality) claimed that Snipers were not deployed. "

well they are lying... unsuprisingly.

"


Psstttt... notice I said the CRS denied and not the GIGN 👍😉



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:40 AM
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a reply to: Lagomorphe

i know. still lying.
but all GIGN are qualifed snipers.
and it makes it on to youtube, we just need to find the victims now
www.youtube.com...

looks like its going past deniability.

if you can you get one of these i will come back for a long weekend. lol
pbs.twimg.com...
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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:55 AM
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a reply to: username74

and loookeee which two leaders seem too preoccupied to wave in the G20 group photo
that gave me a good old belly laugh.
MBS seems stoked.
www.theguardian.com...-4



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 01:27 PM
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These are the same tax increases B.O. wanted to impose on America are they not? The same thing Trump tore up when he got into office?



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: Scifi2424

someones got to pay for the israeli.....i mean european defense force.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 01:36 PM
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These are the same tax increases B.O. wanted to impose on America are they not? The same thing Trump tore up when he got into office?



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 02:21 PM
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originally posted by: username74
a reply to: Scifi2424

someones got to pay for the israeli.....i mean european defense force.

The US military is Europe's defense force. It's been that way since World War II ended 73 years ago. Trump has made a point of complaining about how the European states don't pay anything close to a fair share of the cost of defending them.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

The U.S military is NATO main defense force, granted.

Let's face it buddy, if the European continent ever fell to the Soviet forces of the time the U.S would most lightly be next.

We were, and still are, all in it together really.

Plus the UK can protect herself with the Trident ICBM system which we purchased from you, and before that Polaris. Our subs are on par and even superior to your own in some areas.

Then again nobody is coming to invade Britannia in this day of age, we should never have gotten into the nuclear arms game just down to the geography of our nation alone.

Primary target because we made ourselves one really, expensive and nonsensical in the extreme.
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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

The U.S military is NATO main defense force, granted.

Let's face it buddy, if the European continent ever fell to the Soviet forces of the time the U.S would most lightly be next.

We were, and still are, all in it together really.

Plus the UK can protect herself with the Trident ICBM system which we purchased from you, and before that Polaris. Our subs are on par and even superior to your own in some areas.

Then again nobody is coming to invade Britannia in this day of age, we should never have gotten into the nuclear arms game just down to the geography of our nation alone.

Primary target because we made ourselves one really, expensive and nonsensical in the extreme.


Well not really, the more spread out they are or were the more an adversary had to think twice about attacking. If we held them all over here in the USA, it would be easier to target the entire NATO Nuke defense. With today's tech I am sure its just as easy to target them all but back in the day I am sure it was "NATO" useful for the UK to have them to spread out the MAD strategy. Now I guess you are stuck with them regardless like we are...



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 03:02 PM
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a reply to: Scifi2424

It's certainly not a scenario one would ever wish to see put to the test.

A full-on nuclear exchange would be a mug's game really, as the bankers and corporations that wag our political tail well know. Simply no spoils of war nor tax to be had when your infrastructure is reduced to ash that glows in the dark for the next 10,000 years.

Guess we are all stuck with them indeed.
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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 03:11 PM
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If California had a riot every time gas taxes were added, the place would be constantly on fire, and not just when the Santa Anas kick in and the arsonists get ambitious.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 03:14 PM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

Ouch... well that could backfire, the 'freezing prices' part.

If the market or global commodity prices go up for any reason, and utilities cannot provide energy at the frozen prices without losing big money, then there could be 'interruptions' in their services.

That could lead to more riots. Ugly stuff!


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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: Blue Shift

Kind of a little more to it than just the surface tax on fuel.

France has been falling apart for quite some time.

Macron keeps on bumping his gums about European armies and the like, got to wonder how he was planning to pay for such?

Truth is its Macrons right-wing policies that are the problem, hence the outcry of the people.
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