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Riots in France, Belgium, and Germany? All over gas taxes?

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posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 11:19 PM
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The plebs in the Western World are hurting. The cost of living is off the planet here in Australia but wages and social security are not rising in comparison. People are really hurting. It seems the same is happening in Europe but the French are vocal and stand up for what they believe is right, hence the riots, plus you have the immigration issue which must be sucking millions out of Governments in social security payments. Things are in a mess but it appears to be an organized mess by the those at the top. They want chaos and they want disruption. The question is why??? I sense we are getting closer to the end game and when the time is right the elite will make their move on us poor plebs around the globe.




posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 11:21 PM
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a reply to: grmorrow

One nice example of backwards thinking... It's the population causing violence and chaos how can you blame that on some people you consider to be on top?



posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 11:23 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

It really made people in France angry when Macron outlawed what he called "Fake News" last year. Publications that were against him were labeled as Fake News.

I wonder if people here in America would be terribly upset if Fake News was banned?



posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 11:33 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

here is what you guys don't get, the suns energy is intrinsically linked to the energy source of the earth

that's a no brainer

when sun's energy dim's, so do we



posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 11:35 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults


Exactly Kent University, comes to mind when it comes to the crunch half the problem is the working class shooting each other.



posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 11:41 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

The plebs have had enough. Their standards of living are dropping as the elite want. It is all part of the game. To own more you have to take more!



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 01:13 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Fair to say they will be gmo free and quite plump, good eating and fun to catch... Perfect



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 01:18 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: grmorrow

One nice example of backwards thinking... It's the population causing violence and chaos how can you blame that on some people you consider to be on top?




Are you arguing that the plebs have themselves to blame for this mess?



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 01:21 AM
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THE STREETS ARE BURNING! The STREETS are BURRRRRNING! /s

Did someone already tell the OP that this ist not happening in Germany?



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 02:38 AM
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originally posted by: lakenheath24
The French I know have very little disposable income after all the taxes. I think peeps are pissed off at the migrants as well. It's turning Europe to the right. Even Spain is going right wing apparently. And no wonder....they have had like 15percent unemployment forever.


Actually, if I remember correctly it is about 20% - 25% Unemployment for natives of Spain, and it is about 30% -35% unemployment for "immigrants" in general. That was thanks to the socialist party. But you still have a lot of people cheering for socialism even in Spain. I know one cousin of mine in Spain who is that brainwashed and she loves socialism.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 03:26 AM
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originally posted by: Willtell


They keep giving us politicians or leaders who are easily controlled and basically bought and paid for.


Democracy is a fallacy then.


Rather than solutions, we get more problems because these leaders don’t really want to bring real change.


Maintaining the master/slave status quo is important to them.


Macron wants to tax the lower and middle class and make them pay for Global warming.


No, Macron wanted to further subjugate the working classes. The MIC has identified that people (the workers, the wealth generators, the salt) care about the planet. Global warming is used as an excuse to impoverish those that are not part of the problem.


Why don’t these leaders come together and massively cut their defense budgets?


Never trust a politician or a tax collector.


No, they won’t do that because one of the elite groups, the Military Industrial Complex and the arms industry-- is part of the elites that control them.


No argument there. The MIC serves only those that seek to govern and control.
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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 03:26 AM
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The Media isn't really talking about the co-opting of the Nationalists and Fascists who are also part of the riots, there are people from workers and unions, to socialist and communists, to anarchists, and far-right, nationalists and fascists/fascist sympathisers

it started off about the Taxes, but now people are using it for their own reasons



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 04:22 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
The Media isn't really talking about the co-opting of the Nationalists and Fascists


As someone who lives over here in France (for the past 28 years) I can tell you that the media over here are talking about the far left (who are the main rioters) and the small majority of far right too.

Sadly many kids from the suburban regions of Paris and other major cities in France have also joined in for the sh*ts and giggles and shop looting.

There has however also been quite a few people who are the REAL yellow vest protestors who have decided to join in with the violence (they have been identified as a majority of 35 to 50 year old men in general) because they believe that peacful protesting is doing nothing for their cause.

Watch our for next Saturday, things are going to be worse I think...

Oil refineries are starting to be blocked and the Brittany region already has a petrol shortage.

I peacfully wear my yellow vest with pride...

Warmest respects

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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 04:40 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Fools


I wish we'd hear more in the news about this...it seems to be really growing into something big in France.

I was under the understanding that it involved a draconian carbon tax connected to the Paris Climate Accord...which increases exponentially...and is resulting in enormously high fuel prices.

The MSM, apparently, does not want the world to know that the Paris accord is unpopular in Paris.


There is a reason that this isn't being reported much on mainstream.

What Amazes me the most about the situation of France in particular is that, both Antifa and the Alt-right (both left and right) has united forces against Rothchild linked banker Macron. Paris right now looks like a warzone. But I am always happy when people drop their differences to unite under a common goal.

Imagine if Antifa and the Proud boys / Alt right United the same way. It shows that people can come together, drop their differences and fight for a common cause. And those in power who are in the same league as macron do not want that.

You are correct about something big happening in Paris. Nearly the entire country has risen up. Close to 80% of the entire population. The police however, they have mentioned that they actually support the yellow vests. Unfortunately however they have to follow orders from the higher up and do something they do not want.


I wish all the police united with the yellow vests. If they did, Macron is pretty much done.

@OP, it isnt just "Gas Taxes" they are protesting. It is also other rise in prices when most in france are working minimum wages and can't afford the rise in prices.

Wearechange reports more on this story:


I can bet , that the reason Macron decided to raise those taxes was to build his military. Not sure if its linked to the prices, but you gotta wonder how Macron planned to pay the "new soldiers" since he planned on building a European army

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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 06:21 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
French police are attacking protestors. VidClips posted to Twitter are being removed from Twitter (by Twitter?) before many people can see them. I just tried to paste a link to one here, and it vanished before I could copy the URL.

Is every government, news outlet, and social media platform, now our enemy? Enemies of the world's population?!



If they are headquartered in California or Washington state, yes.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 07:37 AM
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a reply to: grmorrow

your answer.beforethecollapse.com...



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 08:38 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed



Which is a damn good reason to protest, funny how the media however fails to mention it.


DW is available in English as well, just saying...



Anger at the establishment

Emiliano Grossman, a political scientist at the Paris Sciences Po research university, believes the government needs to engage directly with the protesters, who are successful for partly contradictory reasons. On the one hand there is the old contrast between the Parisian Bobos — the "rich left" who are committed to environmental protection — and the conservative people who live on the outskirts of the cities and feel neglected by the government, he said. On the other hand, there are the many people annoyed that very quickly after taking office, Macron abolished the wealth tax — which only the rich pay, Grossman added. "Now the eco tax is being raised, a tax everyone will have to pay," he said, adding that these days, neither the left-wing nor the right-wing in France feel represented by the Parisian establishment.

France revolts against Emmanuel Macron and the 'elite'

Interesting development. Time for a new state of emergency in this state of emergency, I guess.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion
I don't see a contradiction there. The end result of Macron's tax maneuvering is that the tax burden on the wealthy is being reduced while the tax burden on the middle and lower classes is being increased. The elephant in the room that none of those guys want to talk about is the migrant crisis.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

ruh-roh..
"protester sniper occupy rooftop during anti macron riot paris france"
can we confirm this?
get an id on weapons, uniforms, and locations?
sorrry about the vid source site. looks like it keeps getting pulled.
www.investmentwatchblog.com... o-circulating-may-show-someone-getting-shot/
12160.info...
www.bestgore.com...

bestgore.com wtf?!
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you can hear the sniper talking to his spotter.
sounds english?
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you can hear the sniper talking to his spotter.
sounds english?
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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:29 AM
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This is the latest news after the prime ministers speech this afternoon :

Edouard Philippe announced a suspension of planned increases in three taxes on fuel for a six-month period starting January 1 in response to nationwide protests against high pump prices and rising living costs.

“This anger, you’d have to be deaf or blind not to see it or hear it,” Philippe said in his address.

“The French who have donned yellow vests want taxes to drop, and work to pay. That’s also what we want. If I didn’t manage to explain it, if the ruling majority didn’t manage to convince the French, then something must change.”

And then he goes on to announce freezes in electricity and natural gas prices until May 2019 and warned protesters against more disruptions.

"If another day of protests takes place on Saturday, it should be authorised and should take place in calm," he said. "The interior minister will use all means to ensure order is respected."

Full story in English here : www.france24.com...

And Macron remains silent...

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